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NVIDIA Files Trademarks for 3080, 4080 and 5080
So word out on the street is that the new NAVI cards might be named Radeon RX 3080. Guess what NVIDIA did when they learned about that, they filed a trademark on these 'numbers'. Of course, Nvidia's last two GPU series were named GTX 1080 (Ti) and RTX 2080 (Ti) and yes that could stir up some confusion on brand naming.
NVIDIA now has requested trademarks for "3080", "4080" and "5080". You can read about it on EUIPO (European Union Intellectual Property Office) where the claim has been filed, let me also reiterate that the trademarks have not been granted just. And quite honestly, I doubt you can trademark numbers.
We'll update once we learn more about this ruling.
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#5673323 Posted on: 05/26/2019 07:27 PM
Can you actually trademark a number? This is absurd.
I understand if you make a product and try to trademark its name, so it never gets confused with anything else or copycats.
But actually trying to trademark a number? That could lead to allot of trouble...
Just idiotic on my opinion, but I understand their fear.
Can you actually trademark a number? This is absurd.
I understand if you make a product and try to trademark its name, so it never gets confused with anything else or copycats.
But actually trying to trademark a number? That could lead to allot of trouble...
Just idiotic on my opinion, but I understand their fear.
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#5673332 Posted on: 05/26/2019 07:42 PM
Can you actually trademark a number? This is absurd.
I understand if you make a product and try to trademark its name, so it never gets confused with anything else or copycats.
But actually trying to trademark a number? That could lead to allot of trouble...
Just idiotic on my opinion, but I understand their fear.
Why would it lead to a lot of trouble? When you trademark a generic term/word it protects competing companies from using it - it doesn't prevent everyone from using it. Boeing trademarked 747 - its not like no other company can use 747. Apple owns "Apple" - probably one of the most common words in the english language yet there is no problem with other companies like Scholastic for example using the word Apple in their own products. In fact both companies own the trademark for the word "Apple".
If Nvidia is granted 3080/4080/5080 (I don't think they will be but it's definitely possible) it's not like it takes those numbers off the table for everyone else. It just prevents companies selling similar products to Nvidia, in this case AMD, from producing products with those numbers. Which IMO is fine. I've not seen a single good reason why AMD should name their GPUs with the exact same number scheme as Nvidia. The best argument is that it matches their processor branding - in which case let them name it RX 3700 or something. There is no reason for them to use 30X0/40X0 other then to purposely confuse customers.
Can you actually trademark a number? This is absurd.
I understand if you make a product and try to trademark its name, so it never gets confused with anything else or copycats.
But actually trying to trademark a number? That could lead to allot of trouble...
Just idiotic on my opinion, but I understand their fear.
Why would it lead to a lot of trouble? When you trademark a generic term/word it protects competing companies from using it - it doesn't prevent everyone from using it. Boeing trademarked 747 - its not like no other company can use 747. Apple owns "Apple" - probably one of the most common words in the english language yet there is no problem with other companies like Scholastic for example using the word Apple in their own products. In fact both companies own the trademark for the word "Apple".
If Nvidia is granted 3080/4080/5080 (I don't think they will be but it's definitely possible) it's not like it takes those numbers off the table for everyone else. It just prevents companies selling similar products to Nvidia, in this case AMD, from producing products with those numbers. Which IMO is fine. I've not seen a single good reason why AMD should name their GPUs with the exact same number scheme as Nvidia. The best argument is that it matches their processor branding - in which case let them name it RX 3700 or something. There is no reason for them to use 30X0/40X0 other then to purposely confuse customers.
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#5673340 Posted on: 05/26/2019 07:57 PM
You can't trademark 3080.
You can trademark RTX 3080
and if RX 3080 is ruled too similar to RTX 3080 it means AMD can't use it.
You can't trademark 3080.
You can trademark RTX 3080
and if RX 3080 is ruled too similar to RTX 3080 it means AMD can't use it.
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#5673345 Posted on: 05/26/2019 08:19 PM
As others have said, you can't trademark numbers.
And ATI/AMD and nVidia already had cards with the same numbers:
Radeon 9800
Geforce 9800
Radeon R9 280
Geforce 280
There are many more examples, but you got my point. If they could use the same numbers before, it is a precedent on top of not being able to trademark numbers, not even if you put a letter in front of it, like Intel did with i386 and i486.
As others have said, you can't trademark numbers.
And ATI/AMD and nVidia already had cards with the same numbers:
Radeon 9800
Geforce 9800
Radeon R9 280
Geforce 280
There are many more examples, but you got my point. If they could use the same numbers before, it is a precedent on top of not being able to trademark numbers, not even if you put a letter in front of it, like Intel did with i386 and i486.
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