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NVIDIA explains why it has removed Activision Blizzard Games from GeForce Now
Last week we reported that Activision Blizzard games had been removed from NVIDIA’s streaming service, GeForce Now. There wasn't really an explanation leaving customers wondering as to how what and why.
According to NVIDIA, the removal games was due to a misunderstanding between the green team and Activision. It turns out that the video-game giant wanted a commercial agreement with Nvidia before they proceeded -- and the situation stemmed from a simple misunderstanding, Nvidia said on Thursday.
Because Activision participated in the beta test of the service, Nvidia thought that agreement extended to the initial trial period after GeForce’s Feb. 4 launch. The service, which hosts games online and sells superscriptions to players, is now available to the general public. Nvidia has been offering a free 90-day trial to its initial crop of customers, which it calls "founding members."
Activision Blizzard has been a fantastic partner during the GeForce Now beta, which we took to include the free trial period for our founders membership. Recognizing the misunderstanding, we removed their games from our service. We hope hope we can work with them to re-enable these, and more, in the future - Bloomberg.
So Activision Blizzard wanted to negotiate a new commercial agreement before its games were available on GeForce Now. NVIDIA had stated that it does not currently plan to have commercial agreements with game publishers. Obviously, this displeased Activision and the publisher decided to remove its games from this service. GeForce Now is a streaming gaming service, subscribers pay $4.99 a month to stream games from Nvidia-owned data centers.
NVIDIA could re-enable the games, however, there isn’t any ETA on when that may happen.
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#5761361 Posted on: 02/18/2020 03:26 AM
I still don't really get the licensing on this. If I'm logging into my own account why does Blizzard get to say I can't play it remotely?
For example if I was running W10 on Azure and logged into my Blizzard account through an RDP session or whatever - blizzard can just say no? I can't play their games that way? Where do they draw the line with this? If it's another computer on my own network? My friend's computer down the street?
Just seems completely arbitrary and I'm curious to know if there is something in the EULA about it and what it specifically says.
nvidia hosts the install data, apparently this is a problem.
I still don't really get the licensing on this. If I'm logging into my own account why does Blizzard get to say I can't play it remotely?
For example if I was running W10 on Azure and logged into my Blizzard account through an RDP session or whatever - blizzard can just say no? I can't play their games that way? Where do they draw the line with this? If it's another computer on my own network? My friend's computer down the street?
Just seems completely arbitrary and I'm curious to know if there is something in the EULA about it and what it specifically says.
nvidia hosts the install data, apparently this is a problem.
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#5761476 Posted on: 02/18/2020 01:53 PM
I was thinking the same. This service is basically a virtual machine that plays/streams our own games, so how can Blizzard prevent people from using this service??? Crazy stuff...
I still don't really get the licensing on this. If I'm logging into my own account why does Blizzard get to say I can't play it remotely?
For example if I was running W10 on Azure and logged into my Blizzard account through an RDP session or whatever - blizzard can just say no? I can't play their games that way? Where do they draw the line with this? If it's another computer on my own network? My friend's computer down the street?
Just seems completely arbitrary and I'm curious to know if there is something in the EULA about it and what it specifically says.
For example if I was running W10 on Azure and logged into my Blizzard account through an RDP session or whatever - blizzard can just say no? I can't play their games that way? Where do they draw the line with this? If it's another computer on my own network? My friend's computer down the street?
Just seems completely arbitrary and I'm curious to know if there is something in the EULA about it and what it specifically says.
I was thinking the same. This service is basically a virtual machine that plays/streams our own games, so how can Blizzard prevent people from using this service??? Crazy stuff...
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#5761537 Posted on: 02/18/2020 04:40 PM
the games on GeForce Now and other streaming services are not the "same" as the ones you own.
they are owned by the streaming providers or their partners.
you are paying to access a copy of the game on the providers server. You will not get the same accomplishments you've earned on your copies unless you re-do them.
think of this as hanging out at a friends place (where the mom makes you pay for the internet).
the games on GeForce Now and other streaming services are not the "same" as the ones you own.
they are owned by the streaming providers or their partners.
you are paying to access a copy of the game on the providers server. You will not get the same accomplishments you've earned on your copies unless you re-do them.
think of this as hanging out at a friends place (where the mom makes you pay for the internet).
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#5761540 Posted on: 02/18/2020 04:51 PM
the games on GeForce Now and other streaming services are not the "same" as the ones you own.
they are owned by the streaming providers or their partners.
you are paying to access a copy of the game on the providers server. You will not get the same accomplishments you've earned on your copies unless you re-do them.
think of this as hanging out at a friends place (where the mom makes you pay for the internet).
Uh with Geforce now you're literally logging into a remote desktop, logging into your account and playing a game that I purchased on whatever platform. The progress I make on the geforce now game is identical when I log into my local computer and play the same game. The achievements are the same. Everything is the same.
This could be different for other services but for Geforce Now that's how it works so I'm not sure why you're saying it's not.
@Astyanax is right that the data itself is cached locally on Nvidia's servers and perhaps there is some legal issue with that - but I'm definitely playing the game I purchased on my account and it's the same game that's sitting on my computer.
I actually finished Hellblade by swapping between the Geforce Now Beta and my local steam copy through dozens of various sessions with the game.
the games on GeForce Now and other streaming services are not the "same" as the ones you own.
they are owned by the streaming providers or their partners.
you are paying to access a copy of the game on the providers server. You will not get the same accomplishments you've earned on your copies unless you re-do them.
think of this as hanging out at a friends place (where the mom makes you pay for the internet).
Uh with Geforce now you're literally logging into a remote desktop, logging into your account and playing a game that I purchased on whatever platform. The progress I make on the geforce now game is identical when I log into my local computer and play the same game. The achievements are the same. Everything is the same.
This could be different for other services but for Geforce Now that's how it works so I'm not sure why you're saying it's not.
@Astyanax is right that the data itself is cached locally on Nvidia's servers and perhaps there is some legal issue with that - but I'm definitely playing the game I purchased on my account and it's the same game that's sitting on my computer.
I actually finished Hellblade by swapping between the Geforce Now Beta and my local steam copy through dozens of various sessions with the game.
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right misunder standing withere 100 page EULA and other papers most other companies have to read and agree to first? not that maters to i no interesting in "online streaming" gaming like zero