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NVIDIA Congratulates Turing - But Might Delay new upcoming Turing graphics cards
So, over the weekend two things happened. First up, it was Alan Turing's birthday, the man behind cracking the Enigma code, the one mathematical name in the industry looking to be the codename to be used by NVIDIA for their GPUs. And guess what?
So with the man having its birthday, it's always fun for a company that if you would use the name on one of your products, at least to do something with that on his birth date. And yeah, that's exactly what NVIDIA did as they posted this tweet:
It's more of a hint really, Turing seems to be the real codename for NVIDIA's upcoming GPU series or at least one of them. It's tradition for NVIDIA to make use of a product codename based on a mathematician, Pascal, Fermi, Kepler etc.
Right, then there is the second bit of news, word out on the street is that NVIDIA will be further delaying the new graphics cards. The mining arena seems to have collapsed, there would be much stock left based on current inventory, and since NVIDIA really doesn't 'need to' release a new series of cards. They might sit it out a little while longer to clear up inventory mentions SemiAccurate. Also, earlier this month it was announced that Nvidia would hold a presentation on Hot Chips mentioning "the next generation of mainstream gpu's" in the conference agenda. As it now seems, this presentation has been canceled and replaced by one from Intel. That is another indication that introduction of Turing seems to have been postponed, although we are not sure.
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#5560330 Posted on: 06/26/2018 07:45 AM
I understand the enthusiast point of view but I am also sure that at the Nvidia headquarters they try to focus on the 250 watt tdp limit for their gaming cards so how much power the new theoretical 12nm architecture may need to be capable of 120 hz at 4k?
At this moment it seems that only the Titan V is capable to do what you would like to see in the mainstream segment.
I think you missed the point of "New Architecture", and ignored it for 12nm.
12nm may not do much, likely same achievable clock at 100mV less, so around ~10-15% smaller power consumption, or bit better OC. But point of Turing is in changes inside building blocks of GPU itself. Some things may be done within fewer GPU cycles. It may have those new Tensor cores.
Maybe better intra frame voltage gating for parts which are done their work and are waiting for next batch of data. (which may bring even bigger energy efficiency over 12nm)
There are really many things next architectural step can bring. What if nVidia improved HW level compression for textures and next generation had effectively 20% more space for textures on card with same amount of physical memory?
I understand the enthusiast point of view but I am also sure that at the Nvidia headquarters they try to focus on the 250 watt tdp limit for their gaming cards so how much power the new theoretical 12nm architecture may need to be capable of 120 hz at 4k?
At this moment it seems that only the Titan V is capable to do what you would like to see in the mainstream segment.
I think you missed the point of "New Architecture", and ignored it for 12nm.
12nm may not do much, likely same achievable clock at 100mV less, so around ~10-15% smaller power consumption, or bit better OC. But point of Turing is in changes inside building blocks of GPU itself. Some things may be done within fewer GPU cycles. It may have those new Tensor cores.
Maybe better intra frame voltage gating for parts which are done their work and are waiting for next batch of data. (which may bring even bigger energy efficiency over 12nm)
There are really many things next architectural step can bring. What if nVidia improved HW level compression for textures and next generation had effectively 20% more space for textures on card with same amount of physical memory?
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I'm seeing some disturbing news re Nvidias new NDAs.
https://videocardz.com/76645/nvidias-new-non-disclosure-agreement-leaked
German site Heise.de has refused to sign it as its a long term (5 years) contract which could limit even speculation about technical aspects of Nvidia products unless its "beneficial" to Nvidia.
https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/In-eigener-Sache-Nvidia-NDA-als-Maulkorb-fuer-Journalisten-4091751.html
I wonder why now? Could the timing also be related to how Turing may turn out? That it may not live up to expectations?
I wouldn't say that has to give us any specific clues to the chip itself, but more to how Nvidia tries to control the environment around them. Same as with GPP, now they're just doing it with tech journalists and not board partners.
But this time around there's actually a paper to read so everybody knows what's up, not just hearsay. I wish back with GPP such a document would have been leaked too.
Good find though, thx for sharing.