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NVIDIA CEO Makes Interesting Remark, New Gamers GeForce is a long time away from now
Earlier today the first press conferences started in Taiwan, today Nvidia held an invite-only press-conference with Jensen Huang. Nothing ground-breaking or new for the consumer market has been introduced. At the end of the session, however, Journalists asked some questions.
Jensen Huang talked about the renewal of its Jetson platform for autonomous robots with a Xavier-SoC. Nvidia launched a new Jetson Xavier on a form factor less than 10 by 10 cm, the Cortex-A57 cores have been replaced by eight of Nvidia's own 64-bit ARM v8.2 with a GPU based on the Volta architecture, these include Tensor cores supported by 16 GB LPDDR4x memory.
Back to the topic though, when Jensen Huang was asked when gamers can expect a Volta based GeForce card or whatever it'll be called, he answered that prices of the existing Pascal video cards had dropped to a regular level for some time and that gamers could again buy a GeForce GTX 1070, 1080 or 1080 Ti, saying that they were the best video cards that you as a gamer can buy.
Another editor asked for a small hint on the topic, Huang answered. "Do not worry, I will invite you", followed by "It'll be a long time from now". Since the question was slightly specific on Volta, his answer by itself does not eliminate the option of a pascal refresh.
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#5553272 Posted on: 06/04/2018 06:44 PM
This is a moving target. Once GPUs can comfortably play games at 4K 60 there will be 4K 144 monitors, followed by 6K/8K monitors. Being unable to render a perfect 60 FPS at the highest resolution does not mean that new GPUs are needed, especially since 4K is a niche market.
"Man, I can't wait for the 1380 Ti. My old 1280 Ti is unable to hit 144 FPS on my new 4K 144Hz monitor and that's just sad. We need a new GPU ASAP!" :p
The issue then is people buying screens before they can drive them with a single GPU. That's just asking for a sub optimal experience imho. I bought my 1440p screen with 144Hz... when there was a card that can run current titles with those specs. I tried 980SLI too but it was not always fun, like @Denial mentioned above. Once 4K 144Hz screens will be around with a GPU to drive them, I'll make the jump, not a single year earlier. It simply doesn't make sense for me, as I don't do any productive work on my rig, only gaming. So if you build your system to game at a certain resolution / fps, it's actually easy to not buy a monitor you can't run at it's full specs.
This is a moving target. Once GPUs can comfortably play games at 4K 60 there will be 4K 144 monitors, followed by 6K/8K monitors. Being unable to render a perfect 60 FPS at the highest resolution does not mean that new GPUs are needed, especially since 4K is a niche market.
"Man, I can't wait for the 1380 Ti. My old 1280 Ti is unable to hit 144 FPS on my new 4K 144Hz monitor and that's just sad. We need a new GPU ASAP!" :p
The issue then is people buying screens before they can drive them with a single GPU. That's just asking for a sub optimal experience imho. I bought my 1440p screen with 144Hz... when there was a card that can run current titles with those specs. I tried 980SLI too but it was not always fun, like @Denial mentioned above. Once 4K 144Hz screens will be around with a GPU to drive them, I'll make the jump, not a single year earlier. It simply doesn't make sense for me, as I don't do any productive work on my rig, only gaming. So if you build your system to game at a certain resolution / fps, it's actually easy to not buy a monitor you can't run at it's full specs.
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#5553276 Posted on: 06/04/2018 06:51 PM
This is good for everyone because now new games are coming and the devs with have to bare in mind that they cant tax the hell out of our cards because who is going to buy the game ?
This is good for everyone because now new games are coming and the devs with have to bare in mind that they cant tax the hell out of our cards because who is going to buy the game ?
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#5553278 Posted on: 06/04/2018 06:55 PM
Meh my 1080ti doesn't struggle with anything I'm playing so this does not bother me. Ball is in AMD's court hope they can surprise us.
Meh my 1080ti doesn't struggle with anything I'm playing so this does not bother me. Ball is in AMD's court hope they can surprise us.
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#5553295 Posted on: 06/04/2018 07:39 PM
As disappointing as this might be for some personally I feel a little more at ease that my 1070 isn't gonna become obsolete, advancement is good but I'm happy I'm gonna get my money's worth this time.
As disappointing as this might be for some personally I feel a little more at ease that my 1070 isn't gonna become obsolete, advancement is good but I'm happy I'm gonna get my money's worth this time.
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#5553327 Posted on: 06/04/2018 08:47 PM
Sadly this isn't always the case.
Kingdom come deliverance has supported sli the entire time, nvidia just took AGES to release an official profile. Assassins creed origins does work with sli (syndicate profile gives nearly 100% scaling, but introduces artifacts), but nvidia hasn't bothered working on a profile for it... there are many examples like this.
Imo it's a double edged sword in regards to sli... games are starting to use more techniques that are not sli friendly, but nvidia has certainly also neglected sli for a long time...
SLI doesn't work because games are using techniques that simply don't support it. There is nothing Nvidia can do about that - the only thing they can do for what you want is build a larger graphics card. Titan V is available for 25-30% better performance than 1080Ti but it's $3000. The best Nvidia can do at the moment is cut the tensor/FP64 off the Titan V (GV100) and ship something similar to it. But you'd still only get 25-30% better performance and they'd have to rearrange the entire topology of the chip to do that - which is simply not worth the money for Nvidia and I doubt many people would spend $800+ on 25-30% performance, so it probably won't happen.
Sadly this isn't always the case.
Kingdom come deliverance has supported sli the entire time, nvidia just took AGES to release an official profile. Assassins creed origins does work with sli (syndicate profile gives nearly 100% scaling, but introduces artifacts), but nvidia hasn't bothered working on a profile for it... there are many examples like this.
Imo it's a double edged sword in regards to sli... games are starting to use more techniques that are not sli friendly, but nvidia has certainly also neglected sli for a long time...
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#5553328 Posted on: 06/04/2018 08:49 PM
Wasn't it like SLI works all the time, and because of dev's sloppy programming they even have to introduce profiles in the first place?
Wasn't it like SLI works all the time, and because of dev's sloppy programming they even have to introduce profiles in the first place?
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#5553332 Posted on: 06/04/2018 09:02 PM
Perfectly happy to keep using my 1080Ti for another year....or three.
Perfectly happy to keep using my 1080Ti for another year....or three.
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#5553335 Posted on: 06/04/2018 09:09 PM
Well I sure won't buy almost 2year old tech at still overpriced 750-850€, pfft.
Nv ceo can suck it.
Well I sure won't buy almost 2year old tech at still overpriced 750-850€, pfft.
Nv ceo can suck it.
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#5553342 Posted on: 06/04/2018 09:30 PM
Developers always follow hardware, you can't make a game that no one or very few can run, it makes no financial sense.
developers heavily rely on hardware advancements to push their game's requirements up.
Can it run Crysis?
Developers always follow hardware, you can't make a game that no one or very few can run, it makes no financial sense.
developers heavily rely on hardware advancements to push their game's requirements up.
Can it run Crysis?
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#5553387 Posted on: 06/05/2018 12:05 AM
lol a "It'll be a long time from now". He has no choice but to say that so people won't stop buying the current gen and wait for next gen. A silly/pointless question to ask and something we already know the answer to. The actual reality is "in a few months".
lol a "It'll be a long time from now". He has no choice but to say that so people won't stop buying the current gen and wait for next gen. A silly/pointless question to ask and something we already know the answer to. The actual reality is "in a few months".
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#5553396 Posted on: 06/05/2018 12:43 AM
You better give me a good deal on it next year!.....
Meh my 1080ti doesn't struggle with anything I'm playing so this does not bother me. Ball is in AMD's court hope they can surprise us.
You better give me a good deal on it next year!.....
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#5553397 Posted on: 06/05/2018 12:48 AM
Well I sure won't buy almost 2year old tech at still overpriced 750-850€, pfft.
Nv ceo can suck it.
Well, your 980Ti OC ain't no slouch either...your really getting your money's worth from Nvidia.
Well I sure won't buy almost 2year old tech at still overpriced 750-850€, pfft.
Nv ceo can suck it.
Well, your 980Ti OC ain't no slouch either...your really getting your money's worth from Nvidia.
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#5553401 Posted on: 06/05/2018 01:18 AM
AMD hasn't released anything because they just did in August of 2017, and they always have at least a 1 year gap between graphics card releases.
Notice how AMD, who has competition hasn't released anything either? It's not because of lack of competition.. it's because they are in the same boat.
AMD hasn't released anything because they just did in August of 2017, and they always have at least a 1 year gap between graphics card releases.
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#5553403 Posted on: 06/05/2018 01:31 AM
We should make a sub-forum called "baseless conjecture" and throw half of you all into it to bicker over unsubstantiated arguments and assertions.
We should make a sub-forum called "baseless conjecture" and throw half of you all into it to bicker over unsubstantiated arguments and assertions.
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Developing a new GPU take several years, to me it's unlikely this "delay" is a reaction on the current state of competition as it's almost impossible to forsee it years back, and you won't be holding your next products if they're ready? Most likely the wait is on GGD6 memmory to be available in volume?
And is the answer from Jensen not only a strategic anwser to keep on selling current 10-series?