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NVIDIA CEO Makes Interesting Remark, New Gamers GeForce is a long time away from now
Earlier today the first press conferences started in Taiwan, today Nvidia held an invite-only press-conference with Jensen Huang. Nothing ground-breaking or new for the consumer market has been introduced. At the end of the session, however, Journalists asked some questions.
Jensen Huang talked about the renewal of its Jetson platform for autonomous robots with a Xavier-SoC. Nvidia launched a new Jetson Xavier on a form factor less than 10 by 10 cm, the Cortex-A57 cores have been replaced by eight of Nvidia's own 64-bit ARM v8.2 with a GPU based on the Volta architecture, these include Tensor cores supported by 16 GB LPDDR4x memory.
Back to the topic though, when Jensen Huang was asked when gamers can expect a Volta based GeForce card or whatever it'll be called, he answered that prices of the existing Pascal video cards had dropped to a regular level for some time and that gamers could again buy a GeForce GTX 1070, 1080 or 1080 Ti, saying that they were the best video cards that you as a gamer can buy.
Another editor asked for a small hint on the topic, Huang answered. "Do not worry, I will invite you", followed by "It'll be a long time from now". Since the question was slightly specific on Volta, his answer by itself does not eliminate the option of a pascal refresh.
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#5553098 Posted on: 06/04/2018 02:01 PM
I would have taken 20% more performance half a year ago, rather than go 1 year more without any performance improvements at all
The 815mm2 die size of GV100 doesn't include the HBM2 stacks. You'd strip the tensors/FP64 and get 550-600 but then you run into what I said.. it's like 20% more performance, arguably because of clock speed due to power limitations.. but then what? You're new generation is maxed at 20% more than previous.
I would have taken 20% more performance half a year ago, rather than go 1 year more without any performance improvements at all
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#5553104 Posted on: 06/04/2018 02:07 PM
Q4 2018 or maybe Q1 2019 ? A long time to wait indeed.
Q4 2018 or maybe Q1 2019 ? A long time to wait indeed.
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#5553109 Posted on: 06/04/2018 02:15 PM
No suprises.... end of the year, 12nm refined Pascal with GDDR6/5X would be my guess.
no competition or pressure from AMD
No suprises.... end of the year, 12nm refined Pascal with GDDR6/5X would be my guess.
no competition or pressure from AMD
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#5553116 Posted on: 06/04/2018 02:27 PM
Well, for me as a 1080Ti buyer at release this is good news I guess, since it made my choice from last year even better. But then again, for 1440p 140Hz gaming this card is more than enough. Same for 1070 and 1080. It IS weird though to have a generation going for so long and still be up there.
So yeah, out of habit, even though this is in my advantage money wise, I was used to look for upgrades by now. Oh well... :p
However, I can see the 4K guys being more pissed than me though, but considering how many are still on 1080p (or below) it's clear to me that they are and will be a niche resolution gaming wise for years to come (just like 1440p was ~8 years ago).
Well, for me as a 1080Ti buyer at release this is good news I guess, since it made my choice from last year even better. But then again, for 1440p 140Hz gaming this card is more than enough. Same for 1070 and 1080. It IS weird though to have a generation going for so long and still be up there.
So yeah, out of habit, even though this is in my advantage money wise, I was used to look for upgrades by now. Oh well... :p
However, I can see the 4K guys being more pissed than me though, but considering how many are still on 1080p (or below) it's clear to me that they are and will be a niche resolution gaming wise for years to come (just like 1440p was ~8 years ago).
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It's a complicated situation. Looking at the CPU side, Intel responded to Ryzen very quickly with 6C mainstream chips from the same process they already used for Sky and Kaby. 12nm would still be an improvement compared to 16nm, even if not much. It's no doubt partially the lack of pressure that made them save money by not hurrying forward with in the consumer market. The other factor is how complicated things are getting. For Intel it meant nothing to make the 6C they could have released already many years ago if they weren't such scumbags. But it's far harder to make better high level GPUs anymore, at least until AMD and Nvidia figure out a way to make working GPUs using smaller pieces like it goes with Ryzen. However, it has to take more time to make that work than simply following the old path. Or come up with something else revolutionary.
AMD is further held back because it has little money for R&D (or anything). It needs to think exceptionally carefully how to spend the money. Already Intel is using its bigger bucks to buy brains away from AMD.
But yes, I agree on both being in the same boat aside from the money issue.