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Over at the B3D forums users claim that big Pascal has taped out, and is on TSMC 16nm and the target release date for this GPU is Q1'16. The product would be released as GP100 and will be the succesor to the GM200 series GPUs.
A tape-out simply means that there is an initial engineering sample batch for internal testing purposes released. With the pascal architecture Nvidia as well will make a move towards HBM memory (stacked on die memory), however they will jump right towards generation v2 of HBM, meaning they could inject up-to 32GB pf memory on the GPU.
It is estimated that ther shader processor count for big pascal is anything from 4500 towards 6000 units. Big Pascal made on TSMC's 16 nanometer silicon fab process with a release in Q1 2016.
Time to revive this thread. My info says big Pascal has taped out, and is on TSMC 16nm (Unknown if this is FF or FF+, though I suspect it is FF+). Target release date is Q1'16. This is a change from Kepler and Maxwell where the smallest chip (GK107 and GM107 respectively) taped out first. Maybe the experience with 20nm was enough for NV to go back to their usual big die first strategy. Given the huge gains in performance compared to 28nm, and the fact that the 16nm process is both immature and quite expensive, I suspect the die size may be a bit smaller than what we've seen with GK110/GM200.
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#5091538 Posted on: 06/08/2015 08:45 AM
What happened to the ARM CPU that was gonna be included on the PCB somewhere? It was initially supposed to be on Maxwell, but then if my memory serves me right it was pushed back to be included on Pascal, or was it Volta?
What happened to the ARM CPU that was gonna be included on the PCB somewhere? It was initially supposed to be on Maxwell, but then if my memory serves me right it was pushed back to be included on Pascal, or was it Volta?
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#5091559 Posted on: 06/08/2015 09:28 AM
so this is a 100% rumor right?
so this is a 100% rumor right?
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#5091563 Posted on: 06/08/2015 09:33 AM
Same here, can't wait to replace my 680. Will be such a huge leap in performance for me.
Bring it,my wallet is ready for big Pascal!
Same here, can't wait to replace my 680. Will be such a huge leap in performance for me.
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#5091567 Posted on: 06/08/2015 09:41 AM
q1 2016... yeah, no reason to get a Maxwell chip. Im deffo waiting till NeXT year.
q1 2016... yeah, no reason to get a Maxwell chip. Im deffo waiting till NeXT year.
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#5091572 Posted on: 06/08/2015 09:53 AM
hum , it s very short between 980 Ti and new gpu 16 nm.
I don't expect a release of Pascal before mid 2016.
hum , it s very short between 980 Ti and new gpu 16 nm.
I don't expect a release of Pascal before mid 2016.
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#5091581 Posted on: 06/08/2015 10:04 AM
http://www.techpowerup.com/213254/nvidia-tapes-out-pascal-based-gp100-silicon.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/213254/nvidia-tapes-out-pascal-based-gp100-silicon.html
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#5091583 Posted on: 06/08/2015 10:05 AM
Nice to see, but the first thing even remotely interesting for me will be Volta.
Nice to see, but the first thing even remotely interesting for me will be Volta.
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#5091594 Posted on: 06/08/2015 10:20 AM
This. Anyone know?
What happened to the ARM CPU that was gonna be included on the PCB somewhere? It was initially supposed to be on Maxwell, but then if my memory serves me right it was pushed back to be included on Pascal, or was it Volta?
This. Anyone know?
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#5091601 Posted on: 06/08/2015 10:28 AM
not incredibly psyched unless they bring an out of this world performance boost to gaming -- the estimated 10x speed boost to deep learning training isn't very interesting to me. will probably hold on to my cards until volta.
not incredibly psyched unless they bring an out of this world performance boost to gaming -- the estimated 10x speed boost to deep learning training isn't very interesting to me. will probably hold on to my cards until volta.
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#5091621 Posted on: 06/08/2015 10:52 AM
Yeah. I've still not seen anything that was a "must upgrade" performance requirement from anything I'm playing, even at 2560x1440, hell the 680 ate GTA5 just fine... I just don't want to upgrade till I can get at least 100% better performance across the board at less cost than the 680 was. The 980Ti seems to fill in the first bit, but at more than 50% extra price compared to the 680, which just turned 3 years old, I can't justify the purchase.
Same here, can't wait to replace my 680. Will be such a huge leap in performance for me.
Yeah. I've still not seen anything that was a "must upgrade" performance requirement from anything I'm playing, even at 2560x1440, hell the 680 ate GTA5 just fine... I just don't want to upgrade till I can get at least 100% better performance across the board at less cost than the 680 was. The 980Ti seems to fill in the first bit, but at more than 50% extra price compared to the 680, which just turned 3 years old, I can't justify the purchase.
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#5091626 Posted on: 06/08/2015 11:01 AM
erm pretty sure a 980Ti doubles the performance of your 680 at 1440p.
So 100% performace increase for 50% more cost seems OK to me!?
Yeah. I've still not seen anything that was a "must upgrade" performance requirement from anything I'm playing, even at 2560x1440, hell the 680 ate GTA5 just fine... I just don't want to upgrade till I can get at least 100% better performance across the board at less cost than the 680 was. The 980Ti seems to fill in the first bit, but at more than 50% extra price compared to the 680, which just turned 3 years old, I can't justify the purchase.
erm pretty sure a 980Ti doubles the performance of your 680 at 1440p.
So 100% performace increase for 50% more cost seems OK to me!?
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#5091632 Posted on: 06/08/2015 11:07 AM
hum , it s very short between 980 Ti and new gpu 16 nm.
I don't expect a release of Pascal before mid 2016.
Yeah honestly you should just either upgrade to the 980 Ti now or wait for a sale on it. You won't really save much waiting..
hum , it s very short between 980 Ti and new gpu 16 nm.
I don't expect a release of Pascal before mid 2016.
Yeah honestly you should just either upgrade to the 980 Ti now or wait for a sale on it. You won't really save much waiting..
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#5091653 Posted on: 06/08/2015 11:39 AM
Mind you, even if the 980Ti is out now, don't expect a Pascal Ti to be around for another year... and that's the usual schedule. So besides a few months, we all know when stuff is going to be around, and there's always the next best thing 'around the corner'.
Mind you, even if the 980Ti is out now, don't expect a Pascal Ti to be around for another year... and that's the usual schedule. So besides a few months, we all know when stuff is going to be around, and there's always the next best thing 'around the corner'.
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#5091662 Posted on: 06/08/2015 11:58 AM
What happened to the ARM CPU that was gonna be included on the PCB somewhere? It was initially supposed to be on Maxwell, but then if my memory serves me right it was pushed back to be included on Pascal, or was it Volta?
This. Anyone know?
If you go back and look at the rumors surrounding this, nvidia never once mention it being a traditional desktop GPU, everyone just inferred that. They just said they were looking to pair a ARM chip with a Maxwell architecture. They ended up doing it with both Kepler/Maxwell in the form of the K1 and X1. There is literally zero reason to put a ARM chip on a desktop GPU.
hum , it s very short between 980 Ti and new gpu 16 nm.
I don't expect a release of Pascal before mid 2016.
This hasn't stopped them before, I don't see why it would now. Especially because Nvidia is not just targeting games/gamers with their architectures anymore.
What happened to the ARM CPU that was gonna be included on the PCB somewhere? It was initially supposed to be on Maxwell, but then if my memory serves me right it was pushed back to be included on Pascal, or was it Volta?
This. Anyone know?
If you go back and look at the rumors surrounding this, nvidia never once mention it being a traditional desktop GPU, everyone just inferred that. They just said they were looking to pair a ARM chip with a Maxwell architecture. They ended up doing it with both Kepler/Maxwell in the form of the K1 and X1. There is literally zero reason to put a ARM chip on a desktop GPU.
hum , it s very short between 980 Ti and new gpu 16 nm.
I don't expect a release of Pascal before mid 2016.
This hasn't stopped them before, I don't see why it would now. Especially because Nvidia is not just targeting games/gamers with their architectures anymore.
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Bring it,my wallet is ready for big Pascal!