NVIDIA Allegedly Moving Ampere to 7nm TSMC in 2021
One thing is clear, Samsung can't produce the Ampere-based GPUs quick enough or in enough volume so, from the looks of things, NVIDIA will be moving a large chunk of wafer fabrication to TSMC.
The news reached the web today though DigiTimes. And if true that means that NVIDIA likely will slip towards 7nm wafer die production, as expected for a long time in the first place. What also is possible it that the 'update' product like an RTX 3080 with 20GB or other products like the RTX 3050/3060 in the lineup that has not been released just yet move to that TSMC 7nm node.
DigiTimes states Nvidia has already booked high volume production capacity on TSMC’s 7 nm nodes for 2021. TSMC recently lowered the prices on the 7nm wafers and also mentions the choice is made to spread risk that is yield related.
-- Digitimes (online translated) --
It has also been reported that NVIDIA’s previous annual masterpiece RTX 30 series uses Samsung Electronics’ 8nm process at a considerable OEM discount, but will switch to TSMC’s 7nm process in 2021. The order volume is not less. The reason for NVIDIA's transfer of orders is that TSMC's 7nm offer is relatively close to the people, and the other is that it has previously planned to diversify risks to deal with Samsung's 8nm yield problem. The NVIDIA 7nm large order is also one of TSMC's important customers to maintain high-end 7nm capacity utilization in 2021.
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A history that does not and has never applied to the RTG.
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Probably true. But to be more precise, I was actually referring to people's expectations, AMD seldomly ups their own hype with nothing to base it on, it's biased rumor mongering that breaks their neck, if it happens.
The rest of the discussion could be tame and unemotional. Unless they hire their PR department to diss Nvidia again for no apparent reason but to little avail (iirc Vega vs Nvidia marketing).
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Probably true. But to be more precise, I was actually referring to people's expectations, AMD seldomly ups their own hype with nothing to base it on, it's biased rumor mongering that breaks their neck, if it happens.
The rest of the discussion could be tame and unemotional. Unless they hire their PR department to diss Nvidia again for no apparent reason but to little avail (iirc Vega vs Nvidia marketing).
Maybe they'll drag someone into a limo again and show off a card in a briefcase.
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I see a all red future in my PC case
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Yes, of course you are right. The difference is that AMD has a history of "blowing the competition out of the water" and "being as fast as their competition's lineup", you name the phrase. I prefer to simply wait and see real benchmarks before claiming any marvellous changes in the market...
And same goes for any streamer / youtuber / "tech journalist" who claims to have "sources very deep within / very high up"... there's a lot of rumors out there, and a lot of opinions (which is not the same as facts, a thing often forgotten), and only after the release of w/e product it is about, we shall see. And sometimes people should be more mindful with giving their opinions to not fire unfounded hype.
And that's the core of what I tried to state with the post you quoted that single sentence out of.