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NVIDIA adds far more visual option to not install GeForce Experience
Do you remember how Geforce Experience first was a feature, initially an optional separated install and then pretty much became a mandatory installation tied to the drivers, and then cloud logins like Facebook etc? Well, there always has been an option to not install it. If you installed a GeForce driver, you had to choose a custom installation and only then you would see the option to not install it listed in a drop-down list.
This has been changed, and though we're not sure why that is, we do think it might have been GDPR-related as the actual change took effect when the new legislation became active somewhere last month. If you install a recent NVIDIA GeForce Driver, you will now be specifically asked if you actually want to install GeForce Experience. It is a significant change and a far more clear in relation to consent. Once you install the driver you now get two options, install just the driver, or both the driver and GeForce Experience. This new setup was noticed by our colleagues from the Dutch HWI, props go out to them for this spot as I certainly missed it a month or so ago. Below two examples of how it is now, and how it was hidden in the past.
GeForce Experience has been loved and hated. Loved for it's streaming features, the ability to record with Shadowplay, but hated for transmitting all kinds of telemetry data of your PC and the fact that if you want to use say a feature like shadowplay, you are forced to use a nvidia, google or facebook account.
Above the new situation, you'll immediately get the option to choose both the driver and GeForce Experience or just the driver.
In the old situation, GFE was installed automatically, unless you specifically ticked custom installed, go to a following screen and deselect GFE.
Once you hit the custom installation, here you could unflag GeForce Experience to be skipped during installation.
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#5565611 Posted on: 07/17/2018 09:36 AM
This, if anything. I believe they come with telemetry even without GFE. But the question is, can you do GFE without telemetry?
I'm using GFE only for Shadow Play. If I could get that without GFE as easily, I'd not look back. But OBS was buggy af the last time I tried it.
The question some might ask is if those telemetry stuff are installed only with the GFE selection or are included in both selections?
This, if anything. I believe they come with telemetry even without GFE. But the question is, can you do GFE without telemetry?
I'm using GFE only for Shadow Play. If I could get that without GFE as easily, I'd not look back. But OBS was buggy af the last time I tried it.
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#5565619 Posted on: 07/17/2018 11:28 AM
Pros do always go for custom installation.
It's not even that. I'm more concern that due to security holes in their databases or infrastructure they will leak your data anyway.
To mention a few LinkedIn, Dropbox, Facebook, etc.
Not to mention Sony that was pwned three times in a row and leaked millions of credit card numbers.
Check this website, you might be surprised.
https://haveibeenpwned.com/
That's kinda "old" news and wonder why nobody noticed that. It's been like this since GDPR went live.
Pros do always go for custom installation.
"we never sell your data" Every time I see that I'm thinking they sure as hell share with with 3rd parties though.
It's not even that. I'm more concern that due to security holes in their databases or infrastructure they will leak your data anyway.
To mention a few LinkedIn, Dropbox, Facebook, etc.
Not to mention Sony that was pwned three times in a row and leaked millions of credit card numbers.
Check this website, you might be surprised.
https://haveibeenpwned.com/
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#5565624 Posted on: 07/17/2018 12:10 PM
If your data is sold or leaked does not make a bloody difference... you have no control over it anyway, and the companies lose only their money, you get nothing for your data in LinkedIn's, Dropbox's, Facebook's storages...
As long as you don't save credit card information or payment there, you just live the same as already being hacked. And companies save your credit card data anyway, no chance of you to help or cripple your data's security there. Yet none of this actually has to do with anything in regards to privacy, or even this thread's topic...
If your data is sold or leaked does not make a bloody difference... you have no control over it anyway, and the companies lose only their money, you get nothing for your data in LinkedIn's, Dropbox's, Facebook's storages...
As long as you don't save credit card information or payment there, you just live the same as already being hacked. And companies save your credit card data anyway, no chance of you to help or cripple your data's security there. Yet none of this actually has to do with anything in regards to privacy, or even this thread's topic...
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#5565637 Posted on: 07/17/2018 01:09 PM
If your data is sold or leaked does not make a bloody difference... you have no control over it anyway, and the companies lose only their money, you get nothing for your data in LinkedIn's, Dropbox's, Facebook's storages...
As long as you don't save credit card information or payment there, you just live the same as already being hacked. And companies save your credit card data anyway, no chance of you to help or cripple your data's security there. Yet none of this actually has to do with anything in regards to privacy, or even this thread's topic...
Really basic information I don't care about too much. I'm pretty sure AT&T that I use for my communication services sells my name, phone number, and address. Only thing I care about is my credit card, which is why I don't keep my credit card on file for online payments for things except my utility companies. Steam I don't even keep my credit card info on it, I just buy Steam cards.
If your data is sold or leaked does not make a bloody difference... you have no control over it anyway, and the companies lose only their money, you get nothing for your data in LinkedIn's, Dropbox's, Facebook's storages...
As long as you don't save credit card information or payment there, you just live the same as already being hacked. And companies save your credit card data anyway, no chance of you to help or cripple your data's security there. Yet none of this actually has to do with anything in regards to privacy, or even this thread's topic...
Really basic information I don't care about too much. I'm pretty sure AT&T that I use for my communication services sells my name, phone number, and address. Only thing I care about is my credit card, which is why I don't keep my credit card on file for online payments for things except my utility companies. Steam I don't even keep my credit card info on it, I just buy Steam cards.
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Same here as many. Been doing custom install for the last 8ish years(since changed my 4770 to NV) along with the clean version for a while now since those NV telemetry thingies surfaced. And DDU ofcourse since the time it was available iirc.
But on topic, I really don't mind this extra option for choosing between GFE or Driver "only".
The question some might ask is if those telemetry stuff are installed only with the GFE selection or are included in both selections?