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Nintendo NX to use Nvidia new unannounced Tegra chip
Interesting news on the console front, a new report now says that while the NX will be powered by the Tegra, it won’t be the current Tegra X1 chip, but the upcoming X2, which should be more powerful.
As written on wiiudaily: Last week we heard some rumors about the NX and that it was going to be powered by Nvidia’s mobile Tegra processor — a mobile CPU based on ARM and a GPU from Nvidia.
The Pascal X1 was released last year and is about as powerful as an Xbox One or PS3. Which disappointed many Nintendo fans, as it feels like the NX isn’t going to be powerful enough.
However, a new report now says that while the NX will be powered by the Tegra, it won’t be the current X1 chip, but the upcoming X2, which will be far more powerful.
That’s thanks to the chip using Nvidia’s new “Pascal” graphics architecture. Pascal was introduced just a few months ago on desktop graphics cards with the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070, which are extremely powerful cards. The $350 GTX 1070 is more powerful than last generation’s $1,000 card.
If true, this is definitely good news for Nintendo, as the NX would approach the power of the Xbox One (which we’ve reported in the past), while keeping its mobile shape. If it turns out to be a mobile / home console hybrid as rumored.
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#5314269 Posted on: 07/31/2016 04:33 PM
Yeah while the Nvidia shield which had the X1 chip was very good for what it was being able to run some AAA games such as the Doom 3 remake. It would be very interesting on how powerful the X2 chip is and what kind of ARM Cpu the NX will have.
Yeah while the Nvidia shield which had the X1 chip was very good for what it was being able to run some AAA games such as the Doom 3 remake. It would be very interesting on how powerful the X2 chip is and what kind of ARM Cpu the NX will have.
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#5314310 Posted on: 07/31/2016 07:27 PM
dont matter how powerful it is if there is no 3rd party support
dont matter how powerful it is if there is no 3rd party support
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#5314320 Posted on: 07/31/2016 07:42 PM
Very true. Nintendo does need 3rd party devs as well.
dont matter how powerful it is if there is no 3rd party support
Very true. Nintendo does need 3rd party devs as well.
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#5314425 Posted on: 08/01/2016 12:32 AM
i want Nintendo to be premier console like it was back in the NES/SNES days,
i want Nintendo to be premier console like it was back in the NES/SNES days,
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#5314443 Posted on: 08/01/2016 01:16 AM
There's loads of devs who can program for this architecture. Android/ios devs no problem either. With some help from Nvidia, they could even dip their toes into some PC gaming. Then there's that back-catalogue (which everyone wants).
This is the only handheld/console I will consider for my kids this generation.
There's loads of devs who can program for this architecture. Android/ios devs no problem either. With some help from Nvidia, they could even dip their toes into some PC gaming. Then there's that back-catalogue (which everyone wants).
This is the only handheld/console I will consider for my kids this generation.
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#5314448 Posted on: 08/01/2016 01:21 AM
I want to keep playing mario and zelda, so i'll get this.
Got a pc for 3rd party crap.
Besides, the whole portable home console hybrid sounds interesting, being able to play my 3ds games on the big screen yes please.
I want to keep playing mario and zelda, so i'll get this.
Got a pc for 3rd party crap.
Besides, the whole portable home console hybrid sounds interesting, being able to play my 3ds games on the big screen yes please.
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#5314515 Posted on: 08/01/2016 07:25 AM
So how powerful is it? There's quite the difference between the Xbone and PS3.
So how powerful is it? There's quite the difference between the Xbone and PS3.
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#5314520 Posted on: 08/01/2016 08:11 AM
I think the X1 they were comparing was the Tegra X1 which is closer to ps3 and 360 then Xbox One. Considering the 0.5 tflops performance it delivers. Pretty much all of the best mobile gpus now kind of match Tegra X1.
So they are going to need X2 or something more powerful to be close to Xbox One. Premium console it won't be in the face of PS4 with 4tflops and Xbox Scorpio with 5-6 tflops. But it will have the good first party games and it should be more powerful then Wii U so that is ok.
I think the X1 they were comparing was the Tegra X1 which is closer to ps3 and 360 then Xbox One. Considering the 0.5 tflops performance it delivers. Pretty much all of the best mobile gpus now kind of match Tegra X1.
So they are going to need X2 or something more powerful to be close to Xbox One. Premium console it won't be in the face of PS4 with 4tflops and Xbox Scorpio with 5-6 tflops. But it will have the good first party games and it should be more powerful then Wii U so that is ok.
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#5314521 Posted on: 08/01/2016 08:11 AM
Maybe they meant PS4? For the PS4 and Xbox One, there are exclusive games like the Unchartered series on PS4, but there are a large number of standard games on both consoles. With these both using similar hardware the development between the two would be supposedly not too much extra time consuming. If Nintendo truly will use ARM, it will likely mean purely exclusives. It could be a good thing for Nintendo if they are good, or a bad thing since there won't be any of the cross-platform games such as GTA, Call of Duty etc. If people want to play these, they'd have to have either a PS4 or Xbox One, or PC, in addition to the Nintendo. It's a bit of a risk seeing as you are requiring people to have two (or three!) different consoles.
It will also probably be released around the time when Project Scorpio is either out, close to being out, or gaining more traction in peoples minds.
So how powerful is it? There's quite the difference between the Xbone and PS3.
Maybe they meant PS4? For the PS4 and Xbox One, there are exclusive games like the Unchartered series on PS4, but there are a large number of standard games on both consoles. With these both using similar hardware the development between the two would be supposedly not too much extra time consuming. If Nintendo truly will use ARM, it will likely mean purely exclusives. It could be a good thing for Nintendo if they are good, or a bad thing since there won't be any of the cross-platform games such as GTA, Call of Duty etc. If people want to play these, they'd have to have either a PS4 or Xbox One, or PC, in addition to the Nintendo. It's a bit of a risk seeing as you are requiring people to have two (or three!) different consoles.
It will also probably be released around the time when Project Scorpio is either out, close to being out, or gaining more traction in peoples minds.
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#5314522 Posted on: 08/01/2016 08:20 AM
Main thing isn't even the theoretical performance, it's the battery-life that will determine how much of that power they can actually use.
PS Vita cpu could've gone upto 2Ghz for example had it not been for the battery draining in minutes so a balance will have to be found regardless of how powerful it could be. If the nx has a proper console mode, then, it's full power can be unleashed. If it's just a handheld that allows docking/plugged into a tv, then, don't expect too much.
For Nintendo games, which let's be honest here are relatively low-budget affairs, it should be more than enough. If it hits at least 10million in the first year or two, then, it'll have ports of everything within reason. Fifa, NFS, COD, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter etc are literally guaranteed releases for it so I really wouldn't worry too much about 3rd party support.
Main thing isn't even the theoretical performance, it's the battery-life that will determine how much of that power they can actually use.
PS Vita cpu could've gone upto 2Ghz for example had it not been for the battery draining in minutes so a balance will have to be found regardless of how powerful it could be. If the nx has a proper console mode, then, it's full power can be unleashed. If it's just a handheld that allows docking/plugged into a tv, then, don't expect too much.
For Nintendo games, which let's be honest here are relatively low-budget affairs, it should be more than enough. If it hits at least 10million in the first year or two, then, it'll have ports of everything within reason. Fifa, NFS, COD, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter etc are literally guaranteed releases for it so I really wouldn't worry too much about 3rd party support.
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#5314530 Posted on: 08/01/2016 09:03 AM
Where GTX 1070 selling in 350$? ...dummy
The $350 GTX 1070 is more powerful than last generation’s $1,000 card.
Where GTX 1070 selling in 350$? ...dummy
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#5314531 Posted on: 08/01/2016 09:06 AM
Don't believe it.
Nintendo always cheaps out on it's CPU/GPU choice.
The most we can expect is some kind of hybrid, custom version of X1 with increased features and clock speeds.
Similar to the way in which the original Xbox had a custom GPU sitting somewhere in-between a Geforce 2 and 3.
Don't believe it.
Nintendo always cheaps out on it's CPU/GPU choice.
The most we can expect is some kind of hybrid, custom version of X1 with increased features and clock speeds.
Similar to the way in which the original Xbox had a custom GPU sitting somewhere in-between a Geforce 2 and 3.
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#5314536 Posted on: 08/01/2016 09:27 AM
Don't believe it.
Nintendo always cheaps out on it's CPU/GPU choice.
The most we can expect is some kind of hybrid, custom version of X1 with increased features and clock speeds.
Similar to the way in which the original Xbox had a custom GPU sitting somewhere in-between a Geforce 2 and 3.
Tbh even the X2 would be cheaping out vs the competition. X1 would be going 1.5-2 times the Wii U. Nintendo actually had rather powerful console in Gamecube and in N64 vs the competition.
Don't believe it.
Nintendo always cheaps out on it's CPU/GPU choice.
The most we can expect is some kind of hybrid, custom version of X1 with increased features and clock speeds.
Similar to the way in which the original Xbox had a custom GPU sitting somewhere in-between a Geforce 2 and 3.
Tbh even the X2 would be cheaping out vs the competition. X1 would be going 1.5-2 times the Wii U. Nintendo actually had rather powerful console in Gamecube and in N64 vs the competition.
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#5314575 Posted on: 08/01/2016 12:20 PM
I think that you forgot that it will be a freaking mobile gaming powerhouse... it doesnt have to be as powerfull as ps4 - it already will be leaps beyond ahead of 3DS and you can hook it to a bigger screen. I sure as hell will replace my 3DS with that thing.
Tbh even the X2 would be cheaping out vs the competition. X1 would be going 1.5-2 times the Wii U. Nintendo actually had rather powerful console in Gamecube and in N64 vs the competition.
I think that you forgot that it will be a freaking mobile gaming powerhouse... it doesnt have to be as powerfull as ps4 - it already will be leaps beyond ahead of 3DS and you can hook it to a bigger screen. I sure as hell will replace my 3DS with that thing.
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Will be interesting how powerful the X2 will be. Since X1 would have been way too weak for NX... Since Tegra X1 is far cry from something like even Xbox 1
Imo NX would need tad more power then X1 level tho.