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Next generation of Nvidia graphics (Ampere/Hopper) up to 70% faster than Volta?
So here is the thing, the University of Indiana announced that it will delay the second phase of expansion of its super-computer Crey Shasta “Big Red II” to specifically wait for Nvidia's next generation of graphics.
They originally planned to equip the system with Tesla V100 graphics, but “the opportunity presented itself to wait a little longer and update to the new Nvidia technology”. They will have 2 additional performance Petaflops, buying fewer GPUs. This, thanks to the new generation will offer 70 to 75 percent more performance than the current offer, interesting remark huh?
"According to Brad Wheeler, the vice-president of the information technology branch of the university, 'next generation graphic cards from Nvidia' will be introduced. So we can expect that it will be about Ampere chips. According to Indiana University, these cards will be 70 to 75% faster than the existing models. "
Our best guess is that Ampere GPUs will be unveiled in March at Nvidia’s GPU Technology Conference. That also indicates that NVIDIA will introduce the new architecture for the HPC market first.
BTW Big Red 200 is equipped with AMD's Epyc 7742 processors and thus the future Nvidia GPUs. Epyc 7742 is AMD's top model when it comes to Zen 2 CPUs, so this model has 128 threads and a basic clock speed of 2.25 GHz.
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#5756822 Posted on: 02/03/2020 09:18 AM
... RTX...
I totally read it as "Grey Sasha". Send help.
...in specific scenarios.
... RTX...
.... expansion of its super-computer Crey Shasta “Big Red II” to specifically ....
I totally read it as "Grey Sasha". Send help.
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#5756827 Posted on: 02/03/2020 09:25 AM
Even if its only raytracing scenarios thats impressive.
Imagine 3060 beating 2080super when raytracing is enabled, its gonna be funny.
Even if its only raytracing scenarios thats impressive.
Imagine 3060 beating 2080super when raytracing is enabled, its gonna be funny.
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#5756829 Posted on: 02/03/2020 09:28 AM
@sverek Oh, Lord. Have mercy on this poor soul.
Now, such increase in raw compute power?
Wouldn't be quantum processors to leapfrog GPU parallelism computing in very next future?
@sverek Oh, Lord. Have mercy on this poor soul.
Now, such increase in raw compute power?
Wouldn't be quantum processors to leapfrog GPU parallelism computing in very next future?
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#5756834 Posted on: 02/03/2020 09:54 AM
And 70% more expensive.
And 70% more expensive.
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#5756837 Posted on: 02/03/2020 09:59 AM
Welcome to 3080 ti at 2200 $ rofl..... unless AMD pulls something truly amazing performance/price wise out of their dung-hole
Also, i feel it's a moot point at present, games will soon need to catch up to GPU performance to warrant a purchase of a possible upgrade (Unless you are one the 1%'s who play in 4K)
Welcome to 3080 ti at 2200 $ rofl..... unless AMD pulls something truly amazing performance/price wise out of their dung-hole
Also, i feel it's a moot point at present, games will soon need to catch up to GPU performance to warrant a purchase of a possible upgrade (Unless you are one the 1%'s who play in 4K)
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#5756838 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:00 AM
HPC and AI
... RTX...
HPC and AI
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#5756841 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:02 AM
Well, Nvidia is a stable performer at least.
Titan xp< titan v< titan rtx with same perf diff.
Well, Nvidia is a stable performer at least.
Titan xp< titan v< titan rtx with same perf diff.
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#5756846 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:13 AM
30% more leather jacket included this time?
30% more leather jacket included this time?
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#5756849 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:19 AM
As others have stated, this can be interpreted in a wide variety of ways. Personally, I think this will be relevant only for some HPC scenarios. As for standard consumer stuff, NVIDIA will most likely never give us 70% performance increase. Probably it will be the usual 25-30% improvement for an insane price. Hence, why we need AMD to catch up with RDNA 2 asap.
As others have stated, this can be interpreted in a wide variety of ways. Personally, I think this will be relevant only for some HPC scenarios. As for standard consumer stuff, NVIDIA will most likely never give us 70% performance increase. Probably it will be the usual 25-30% improvement for an insane price. Hence, why we need AMD to catch up with RDNA 2 asap.
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#5756850 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:20 AM
Leather jacket with real time multidirectional reflections.
30% more leather jacket included this time?
Leather jacket with real time multidirectional reflections.
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#5756854 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:30 AM
Of course only in specific scenarios. GPU's are specialist processors that are very good at executing code that is suited for their form of massively parallel computing. They suck at code with large amounts of branching for instance.
That's why these sorts of super computers are built-up from both general purpose CPU's and GPU's. That way you can divide the work to be done up in chunks that can be distributed to the computing architecture that is best suited for its execution.
...in specific scenarios.
Of course only in specific scenarios. GPU's are specialist processors that are very good at executing code that is suited for their form of massively parallel computing. They suck at code with large amounts of branching for instance.
That's why these sorts of super computers are built-up from both general purpose CPU's and GPU's. That way you can divide the work to be done up in chunks that can be distributed to the computing architecture that is best suited for its execution.
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#5756858 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:48 AM
Also, i feel it's a moot point at present, games will soon need to catch up to GPU performance to warrant a purchase of a possible upgrade (Unless you are one the 1%'s who play in 4K)
Wrong for VR. In many of the most interesting VR applications even 2080Ti owners are still struggling with poor frame-rates and it falls back to that frame interpolation thing when it goes under 80/90FPS which is a lot of the time. For those of us with much lesser models like 1070 this happens almost always. eg. I would only be getting 30-50fps at most. And my Rift CV1 headset is lowest resolution of the modern ones which are even tougher in the GPU with high resolutions to render. There is also stupid CPU bottlenecks too but that's a different problem (crappy Unity physics)
Also, i feel it's a moot point at present, games will soon need to catch up to GPU performance to warrant a purchase of a possible upgrade (Unless you are one the 1%'s who play in 4K)
Wrong for VR. In many of the most interesting VR applications even 2080Ti owners are still struggling with poor frame-rates and it falls back to that frame interpolation thing when it goes under 80/90FPS which is a lot of the time. For those of us with much lesser models like 1070 this happens almost always. eg. I would only be getting 30-50fps at most. And my Rift CV1 headset is lowest resolution of the modern ones which are even tougher in the GPU with high resolutions to render. There is also stupid CPU bottlenecks too but that's a different problem (crappy Unity physics)
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#5756859 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:49 AM
This reply to myself was a mistake - but there doesn't seem to be any DELETE POST option on this forum.. WTF?!?
Wrong for VR. In many of the most interesting VR applications even 2080Ti owners are still struggling with poor frame-rates and it falls back to that frame interpolation thing when it goes under 80/90FPS which is a lot of the time. For those of us with much lesser models like 1070 this happens almost always. eg. I would only be getting 30-50fps at most. And my Rift CV1 headset is lowest resolution of the modern ones which are even tougher in the GPU with high resolutions to render. There is also stupid CPU bottlenecks too but that's a different problem (crappy Unity physics)
This reply to myself was a mistake - but there doesn't seem to be any DELETE POST option on this forum.. WTF?!?
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#5756864 Posted on: 02/03/2020 10:59 AM
Even if its only raytracing scenarios thats impressive.
Imagine 3060 beating 2080super when raytracing is enabled, its gonna be funny.
I have a good feeling 3060 might be enough for me for my 1080p 60Hz needs. Now, I just hope the bloody thing won't cost 500 euros.
Even if its only raytracing scenarios thats impressive.
Imagine 3060 beating 2080super when raytracing is enabled, its gonna be funny.
I have a good feeling 3060 might be enough for me for my 1080p 60Hz needs. Now, I just hope the bloody thing won't cost 500 euros.
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...in specific scenarios.