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New Signs of a GTX 1100 Series, GeForce GTX 1180 without RT cores?
It has been a rumor for a long time now, would NVIDIA be ballsy enough to release an 1100 series that have no Tensor and RT cores? Fact is they are missing out on a lot of sales, as the current pricing stack is just too much to swallow for many people.
Meanwhile, Andreas over at Hardwareluxx (German website) noticed an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1180 has appeared in the online database of the GFXBench 4.0 . The device ID is already recognized and the hardware information also indicates in which area the GeForce GTX 1180 has a certain similarity to the Turing cards because this is called the "GeForce RTX 2080 / PCIe / SSE2".
The entry could be indicative of a complete product line of the GTX-11 series. When looking closer, the entry shown above indicates a GeForce GTX 1180 with similar specs towards the GeForce RTX 2080 with 2,944 shader units and a GeForce GTX 1160 accordingly a GeForce RTX 2060 with 1,920 shader units.
I still don't believe that an 1100 series is inbound for the simple reason it is too expensive to design two architectures, it just does not make much sense. But evidence and leaks are slowly prooving my ideas on this wrong.
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#5625044 Posted on: 01/09/2019 02:50 AM
If they release gtx 1180 etc they will slow even more rtx adoption...so pretty much ...other than few tittles , we will see rtx in few generations again. At least this is my specilspecu if this rumor is true.
If they release gtx 1180 etc they will slow even more rtx adoption...so pretty much ...other than few tittles , we will see rtx in few generations again. At least this is my specilspecu if this rumor is true.
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#5625047 Posted on: 01/09/2019 03:02 AM
When someone gets a card out with 1080 Ti performance numbers for around $400-$450, I'll buy. I don't care if it's AMD or Nvidia, so long as it's reliable and doesn't get too noisy. Until then, I'm hanging out in my backlog where my current system runs games just fine.
When someone gets a card out with 1080 Ti performance numbers for around $400-$450, I'll buy. I don't care if it's AMD or Nvidia, so long as it's reliable and doesn't get too noisy. Until then, I'm hanging out in my backlog where my current system runs games just fine.
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#5625055 Posted on: 01/09/2019 03:43 AM
RTX is the new PhysicsX: a joke.
Ray tracing may bring the promise of better imager quality and photorealism, but having cores dedicated to it is just a bad idea.
Also, I've talked about price before and I'll say again: a GPU shouldn't be bigger than 250 mm2, as the space on a wafer is expensive. Nvidia is making bigger and bigger chips, that's translating in bigger prices.
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RTX is the new PhysicsX: a joke.
Ray tracing may bring the promise of better imager quality and photorealism, but having cores dedicated to it is just a bad idea.
Also, I've talked about price before and I'll say again: a GPU shouldn't be bigger than 250 mm2, as the space on a wafer is expensive. Nvidia is making bigger and bigger chips, that's translating in bigger prices.
ON SALE SOON!
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#5625057 Posted on: 01/09/2019 03:48 AM
It would have been nice to see just the 2080 Ti released in the RTX series since it seems to be the one card that can somewhat decently handle ray tracing. Early adopters would have bought it just to try the features out in limited games. This would have given them the ability to still push the RT technology forward without losing sales by forcing overpriced RTX cards to the remainder of their lineup. They could then continue on with the normal GTX cards for the 11 series and offer the usual performance increases at lower prices. This would have also allowed them to gauge the demand for Ray Tracing before driving their entire lineup in that direction. Or maybe they could have just worked on it behind the scenes for a few gens until it was ready for prime time. I get they're reasoning though. If they hadn't forced it on their entire lineup, almost no one would have bought it at these prices since the titles aren't there. Too soon and too big of a performance hit.
One thing is for certain. If Nvidia has a crappy year of sales, they will change things up to where the market demand is. Money is king. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if an 1180 Ti came out and matched the performance of the 2080 Ti in non ray tracing titles for 800-900 bucks. It seems like they have seen the light as far as Gsync is concerned. Anything is possible!
It would have been nice to see just the 2080 Ti released in the RTX series since it seems to be the one card that can somewhat decently handle ray tracing. Early adopters would have bought it just to try the features out in limited games. This would have given them the ability to still push the RT technology forward without losing sales by forcing overpriced RTX cards to the remainder of their lineup. They could then continue on with the normal GTX cards for the 11 series and offer the usual performance increases at lower prices. This would have also allowed them to gauge the demand for Ray Tracing before driving their entire lineup in that direction. Or maybe they could have just worked on it behind the scenes for a few gens until it was ready for prime time. I get they're reasoning though. If they hadn't forced it on their entire lineup, almost no one would have bought it at these prices since the titles aren't there. Too soon and too big of a performance hit.
One thing is for certain. If Nvidia has a crappy year of sales, they will change things up to where the market demand is. Money is king. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if an 1180 Ti came out and matched the performance of the 2080 Ti in non ray tracing titles for 800-900 bucks. It seems like they have seen the light as far as Gsync is concerned. Anything is possible!
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