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New Denuvo protection lasts longer than its predecessors
Denuvo, recently protects games with a new version 4.7, and it seems to hold. Example, Assasin's Creed Origins has not yet been cracked.
The game is protected not only by Denuvo but also through of VMProtect. Lots of end-users have however been complaining about silly high CPU loads during their gaming session. The combo of Denuvo and VMProtect seems to be a winning one. Also Ubisoft’s Watch_Dogs 2 is protected by the new Denuvo version, and also hasn’t been cracked.
Typically games are cracked within a few days, hence this news jumps out of the ordinary, no Denuvo protected games being cracked within a month is odd. A Chinese game cracking group called 3DM even stated the copy protection could end game piracy.
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#5496032 Posted on: 11/28/2017 08:56 AM
I'm just sorry because i buy all the games, and still i have to use this performance eating software over my game.
I'm just sorry because i buy all the games, and still i have to use this performance eating software over my game.
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#5496035 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:09 AM
Seriously, people who pirate your game don't want to buy your game.
However people who pirate your game and enjoy it may buy your game if it's good, because they want to support you and perhaps because of some extra online features. This is exactly what I'm doing with Witcher 3, those guys just deserve my money even though I've already finished the pirated game. I pirated it because such RPGs are usually not my thing and I wasn't even gonna try the game, let alone buy it. Yet CDPR turned me from a pirate of their game into a customer simply because their game is more than great.
When will this pointless fight against piracy stop? This version of Denuvo will get cracked (even if it takes more than a few days) and they'll have to spend money on developing a new one, the cycle that's been set until now will continue and nothing will change.
Meanwhile this type of DRM is anti-consumer and I will never ever support any company which supports such practices. If your DRM-ridden game is good, I will pirate it so I won't have to deal with that crap. You're not only wasting money on useless sh!t, you're also losing customers in the process.
The gaming industry has become a bit better lately compared to a few years ago but it's still a joke when you take companies like Ubisoft and EA into account. I honestly hope they go bankrupt, especially EA which has killed numerous studios with their retarded practices.
Seriously, people who pirate your game don't want to buy your game.
However people who pirate your game and enjoy it may buy your game if it's good, because they want to support you and perhaps because of some extra online features. This is exactly what I'm doing with Witcher 3, those guys just deserve my money even though I've already finished the pirated game. I pirated it because such RPGs are usually not my thing and I wasn't even gonna try the game, let alone buy it. Yet CDPR turned me from a pirate of their game into a customer simply because their game is more than great.
When will this pointless fight against piracy stop? This version of Denuvo will get cracked (even if it takes more than a few days) and they'll have to spend money on developing a new one, the cycle that's been set until now will continue and nothing will change.
Meanwhile this type of DRM is anti-consumer and I will never ever support any company which supports such practices. If your DRM-ridden game is good, I will pirate it so I won't have to deal with that crap. You're not only wasting money on useless sh!t, you're also losing customers in the process.
The gaming industry has become a bit better lately compared to a few years ago but it's still a joke when you take companies like Ubisoft and EA into account. I honestly hope they go bankrupt, especially EA which has killed numerous studios with their retarded practices.
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#5496038 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:17 AM
It's funny when this "pirating" is done not to avoid paying for the game... but to avoid paying for electricity (and air conditioning electricity) because the DRM is pushing CPU to 100%...
I mostly play single player games, which I buy, but then when crack is out I play that version simply because I don't want to be online while gaming (looking at you Steam), or use shitty DRM-infected launchers.
... or, if available there, buy from GOG instead. That's fine. Love them <3
It's funny when this "pirating" is done not to avoid paying for the game... but to avoid paying for electricity (and air conditioning electricity) because the DRM is pushing CPU to 100%...
I mostly play single player games, which I buy, but then when crack is out I play that version simply because I don't want to be online while gaming (looking at you Steam), or use shitty DRM-infected launchers.
... or, if available there, buy from GOG instead. That's fine. Love them <3
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#5496046 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:34 AM
GOG is nice for that.
but on other hand the DRM use insinificant ressource compared to the game itself (and i use most of the time I3 and below... so really few ressource).
GOG is nice for that.
but on other hand the DRM use insinificant ressource compared to the game itself (and i use most of the time I3 and below... so really few ressource).
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#5496047 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:35 AM
Watch_Dogs 2 has been cracked long time ago, and the end of piracy stated by 3DM was few years back. Since then, all Denuvo games (except online only) have been cracked. For the record, 3DM is just a p2p group, not scene.
Watch_Dogs 2 has been cracked long time ago, and the end of piracy stated by 3DM was few years back. Since then, all Denuvo games (except online only) have been cracked. For the record, 3DM is just a p2p group, not scene.
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#5496050 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:48 AM
That's hardly true. Most people aren't living such a nice life they wouldn't need to make any buying choices. I'm sure a good deal of pirates would even steal PC hardware if they could get away with it, but it's considerably harder than simply downloading software. So, they pirate games to increase the amount of games, and any other things, they can afford. If they really want to play one game but can't find a crack, they will buy it. As long as it's a way of life for them to get games (and other software) for free, they will do it so that they have money left for other things they can't get for free so easily.
I don't feel like paying 50-60 euros for games (especially if it's not an Elder Scrolls), so I go for the other great option: I wait a couple of years until the game hits the decent bargain sales. Fortunately I have the patience for it, unlike all the pirates, I reckon.
That being said, I really wish the CPU killer copy protections won't become widespread. If I sent the game publisher a portion of my electricity bill, I doubt they would pay it.
Seriously, people who pirate your game don't want to buy your game.
That's hardly true. Most people aren't living such a nice life they wouldn't need to make any buying choices. I'm sure a good deal of pirates would even steal PC hardware if they could get away with it, but it's considerably harder than simply downloading software. So, they pirate games to increase the amount of games, and any other things, they can afford. If they really want to play one game but can't find a crack, they will buy it. As long as it's a way of life for them to get games (and other software) for free, they will do it so that they have money left for other things they can't get for free so easily.
I don't feel like paying 50-60 euros for games (especially if it's not an Elder Scrolls), so I go for the other great option: I wait a couple of years until the game hits the decent bargain sales. Fortunately I have the patience for it, unlike all the pirates, I reckon.
That being said, I really wish the CPU killer copy protections won't become widespread. If I sent the game publisher a portion of my electricity bill, I doubt they would pay it.
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#5496051 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:51 AM
but on other hand the DRM use insinificant ressource compared to the game itself (and i use most of the time I3 and below... so really few ressource).
I can tell you know nothing about Denuvo.
Your grammar reflects your thought process and profile picture all at once. Keep it up.
but on other hand the DRM use insinificant ressource compared to the game itself (and i use most of the time I3 and below... so really few ressource).
I can tell you know nothing about Denuvo.
Your grammar reflects your thought process and profile picture all at once. Keep it up.
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#5496052 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:58 AM
They went overkill for their DRM so I can't say I'm surprised. It will be cracked eventually. If anything, going overboard with their protections will only improve the cracker's skills.
As far as I'm concerned, Ubisoft or EA logos are enough for me to stay away :p
They went overkill for their DRM so I can't say I'm surprised. It will be cracked eventually. If anything, going overboard with their protections will only improve the cracker's skills.
As far as I'm concerned, Ubisoft or EA logos are enough for me to stay away :p
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#5496055 Posted on: 11/28/2017 10:09 AM
To use VMProtect layer atop DENUVO drm layer is simply ridiculous way to ptotect uplay or steam clients. An example is :Vmprotect->Denuvo->Steam/Uplay->Game Code execution. No surprise it uses 100% of the main CPU thread at nearly all the times as it calls for DENUVO obfuscation triggers through VMprotect Vitual Machine layer. Ofcourse it is secure (for now), but at what cost?
To use VMProtect layer atop DENUVO drm layer is simply ridiculous way to ptotect uplay or steam clients. An example is :Vmprotect->Denuvo->Steam/Uplay->Game Code execution. No surprise it uses 100% of the main CPU thread at nearly all the times as it calls for DENUVO obfuscation triggers through VMprotect Vitual Machine layer. Ofcourse it is secure (for now), but at what cost?
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#5496056 Posted on: 11/28/2017 10:13 AM
Now it makes sense why AI in game is so retarded, CPU is used for protection most of the time :-D
Now it makes sense why AI in game is so retarded, CPU is used for protection most of the time :-D
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#5496066 Posted on: 11/28/2017 11:35 AM
Ubisoft denies the protection is the culprit of the ridiculous CPU activity, saying the game is just CPU intensive. Anyway to verify that?
Ubisoft denies the protection is the culprit of the ridiculous CPU activity, saying the game is just CPU intensive. Anyway to verify that?
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#5496080 Posted on: 11/28/2017 12:03 PM
Of course many of them will buy if they will not have free alternative on torrents sites. X0/PS4 is not cracked and sales numbers says it all. Buy even you dont plan to buy a game you still dont have a right to use somebody`s work for free.
What a lame explanations. You pirated one of the best game of last 10 years and money wise you harmed the business of one of the best (if not the best) dev out there and still you see some positives in it. Ridicolous. Through your actions described above you harm the business of the "good guys".
Seriously, people who pirate your game don't want to buy your game.
Of course many of them will buy if they will not have free alternative on torrents sites. X0/PS4 is not cracked and sales numbers says it all. Buy even you dont plan to buy a game you still dont have a right to use somebody`s work for free.
However people who pirate your game and enjoy it may buy your game if it's good, because they want to support you and perhaps because of some extra online features. This is exactly what I'm doing with Witcher 3, those guys just deserve my money even though I've already finished the pirated game. I pirated it because such RPGs are usually not my thing and I wasn't even gonna try the game, let alone buy it. Yet CDPR turned me from a pirate of their game into a customer simply because their game is more than great.
What a lame explanations. You pirated one of the best game of last 10 years and money wise you harmed the business of one of the best (if not the best) dev out there and still you see some positives in it. Ridicolous. Through your actions described above you harm the business of the "good guys".
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#5496081 Posted on: 11/28/2017 12:05 PM
Seriously, people who pirate your game don't want to buy your game.
However people who pirate your game and enjoy it may buy your game if it's good, because they want to support you and perhaps because of some extra online features. This is exactly what I'm doing with Witcher 3, those guys just deserve my money even though I've already finished the pirated game. I pirated it because such RPGs are usually not my thing and I wasn't even gonna try the game, let alone buy it. Yet CDPR turned me from a pirate of their game into a customer simply because their game is more than great.
I'm not proud of downloading games, but I'm not ashamed either.
I've bought many games after trying and I waited for them to be in discount. I've bought games I actually never ended playing, just because I tried the pirated version and liked.
But I'm certainly not buying anything full of DRM and that has a crappy story or gameplay I didn't enjoy.
Seriously, people who pirate your game don't want to buy your game.
However people who pirate your game and enjoy it may buy your game if it's good, because they want to support you and perhaps because of some extra online features. This is exactly what I'm doing with Witcher 3, those guys just deserve my money even though I've already finished the pirated game. I pirated it because such RPGs are usually not my thing and I wasn't even gonna try the game, let alone buy it. Yet CDPR turned me from a pirate of their game into a customer simply because their game is more than great.
I'm not proud of downloading games, but I'm not ashamed either.
I've bought many games after trying and I waited for them to be in discount. I've bought games I actually never ended playing, just because I tried the pirated version and liked.
But I'm certainly not buying anything full of DRM and that has a crappy story or gameplay I didn't enjoy.
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#5496084 Posted on: 11/28/2017 12:15 PM
Just don't buy the games from EA and Activision lmao let them waste money on stupid DRM then when there profits fall even more than when it was pirated they will back track on it hit them where it hurts rubbish companies
Just don't buy the games from EA and Activision lmao let them waste money on stupid DRM then when there profits fall even more than when it was pirated they will back track on it hit them where it hurts rubbish companies
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