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MSI Shows Optix G27C Curved 144 Hz Gaming Monitor
MSI is releasing a gaming their first ever monitor. It will be called the Optix G27C and is to be a curved gaming monitor with unfortunately only a 27" Full HD (1920x1080) resolution panel.
MSI clarifies that a Samsung panel is being used, but did not specify what type. The 3000:1 contrast ratio however indicates it to be a VA based panel. The monitor will get a 300cd/m² brightness and offers 110% RGB color gamut. Response time is 8ms with a gtg 4ms being specified. It is a speedy panel in terms of refresh rate at 144 Hz. The screen has a 1800R curve. Compared to R4000 or R3000 curve rates, R1800 is the most comfortable for your eyes and suitable for any kind of application including gaming, office or multimedia entertainment.
- Display size 27" Diagonal White LED-Backlight
- Brightness (Typical) 300cd / m2
- NTSC | sRBG
- 85 % 110%
- Contrast (Typical) 3000 : 1
- Pixel Pitch (H x V) 0.36375 x 0.36375
- Resolution (H x V) 1920 x 1080
- Aspect Ratio 16 : 9
- Response Time (Typical) 8ms
- Max. display frequency GTG 4ms
- (Resolution H x V / Fv) 1920 x 1080 / 144 Hz
- I/O 1 x HDMI1.4 / 1 x DP1.2 / 1 x DVI
The Optix G27C will get a HDMI 1.4 and DP 1.2 connector as well as DVI. Prices we spotted are 450 Canadian dollar which is roughly 390 Euro / USD.
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#5371892 Posted on: 12/16/2016 04:32 PM
it's a VA panel though
8ms for a brand new Gaming monitor? 
it's a VA panel though
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#5371916 Posted on: 12/16/2016 05:28 PM
Its a VA panel, so is this yet another 2016 VA panel with good specs but in practice still to slow conpared to similar spec'd ips/tn panels ?
I have yet to find any VA panel that can compete with ips and TN when it comes to respons time.
Its a VA panel, so is this yet another 2016 VA panel with good specs but in practice still to slow conpared to similar spec'd ips/tn panels ?
I have yet to find any VA panel that can compete with ips and TN when it comes to respons time.
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#5371926 Posted on: 12/16/2016 05:46 PM
1ms = TN = the crappiest tech ever for image quality
the pixel responsiveness between 1ms and 8ms is one of those things you can't tell the difference except from the number on a spec sheet.
VA has much better contrast and blacks.
8ms for a brand new Gaming monitor?
1ms = TN = the crappiest tech ever for image quality
the pixel responsiveness between 1ms and 8ms is one of those things you can't tell the difference except from the number on a spec sheet.
VA has much better contrast and blacks.
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#5371927 Posted on: 12/16/2016 05:48 PM
1080p @ 27" ggwp
It gets better, the curve forces you to sit in monitor range where you will see the pixels in all their glory.
1080p @ 27" ggwp
It gets better, the curve forces you to sit in monitor range where you will see the pixels in all their glory.
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#5371975 Posted on: 12/16/2016 07:12 PM
Not keen on the idea of a 27" 1080p monitor, should have been 1440p.
Not keen on the idea of a 27" 1080p monitor, should have been 1440p.
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#5372000 Posted on: 12/16/2016 07:44 PM
Agreed, I have no need for a full hd 27" monitor. Either give me 27" 1440p, or 24" 1080p (or 1920×1200)…
I do like that it’s a VA panel though.
Not keen on the idea of a 27" 1080p monitor, should have been 1440p.
Agreed, I have no need for a full hd 27" monitor. Either give me 27" 1440p, or 24" 1080p (or 1920×1200)…
I do like that it’s a VA panel though.
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#5372083 Posted on: 12/16/2016 11:02 PM
the pixel responsiveness between 1ms and 8ms is one of those things you can't tell the difference except from the number on a spec sheet.
Maybe for the average person, but definitely not for those who've grown up on fast-twitch games like fighting or FPS games, it's pretty noticeable for that group. Regardless of now noticeable it is, I'd take 8ms any day over any sort of TN. I don't know how anyone can tolerate those things. Hell, I think even VAs are intolerable, except for AHVA which is not a VA type and AU Optronics are just horrible at naming things.
the pixel responsiveness between 1ms and 8ms is one of those things you can't tell the difference except from the number on a spec sheet.
Maybe for the average person, but definitely not for those who've grown up on fast-twitch games like fighting or FPS games, it's pretty noticeable for that group. Regardless of now noticeable it is, I'd take 8ms any day over any sort of TN. I don't know how anyone can tolerate those things. Hell, I think even VAs are intolerable, except for AHVA which is not a VA type and AU Optronics are just horrible at naming things.
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#5372086 Posted on: 12/16/2016 11:18 PM
AHVA is the same as IPS, right? What is it that makes you dislike VA panels? For me the IPS glow is too much and I want good blacks; that’s why I’m looking at VA panels.
Hell, I think even VAs are intolerable, except for AHVA which is not a VA type and AU Optronics are just horrible at naming things.
AHVA is the same as IPS, right? What is it that makes you dislike VA panels? For me the IPS glow is too much and I want good blacks; that’s why I’m looking at VA panels.
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#5372095 Posted on: 12/17/2016 12:06 AM
As far as I know, yes, it functions a lot like an IPS. AHVA panels are the "IPS" panels in some high end 144Hz+ monitors like the Acer XB270HU (and 271?) if I'm not mistaken. I see them just plain marketed as IPS to prevent confusion.
As long as backlighting is a thing, glow will be an issue. Even my stupidly overpriced Dell U2713H, a "10 bit" (8 + FRC) AH-IPS, has noticeable glow on the edges despite being all about image quality above all else. Yet I'd still take this monitor over most of the options out there.
I find the issues non-IPS panels have to be far worse than glow. I don't like the viewing angles and colour reproduction on VA panels, the ones I had were quite terrible. I'm sure it's improved, but I still wouldn't take one over an IPS.
Honestly the blacks on any sort of LCD suck, even ones which have area specific backlight control. If deep blacks are really what you're after you're going to have to wait until OLED monitors become affordable.
AHVA is the same as IPS, right? What is it that makes you dislike VA panels? For me the IPS glow is too much and I want good blacks; that’s why I’m looking at VA panels.
As far as I know, yes, it functions a lot like an IPS. AHVA panels are the "IPS" panels in some high end 144Hz+ monitors like the Acer XB270HU (and 271?) if I'm not mistaken. I see them just plain marketed as IPS to prevent confusion.
As long as backlighting is a thing, glow will be an issue. Even my stupidly overpriced Dell U2713H, a "10 bit" (8 + FRC) AH-IPS, has noticeable glow on the edges despite being all about image quality above all else. Yet I'd still take this monitor over most of the options out there.
I find the issues non-IPS panels have to be far worse than glow. I don't like the viewing angles and colour reproduction on VA panels, the ones I had were quite terrible. I'm sure it's improved, but I still wouldn't take one over an IPS.
Honestly the blacks on any sort of LCD suck, even ones which have area specific backlight control. If deep blacks are really what you're after you're going to have to wait until OLED monitors become affordable.
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#5372257 Posted on: 12/17/2016 04:43 PM
As far as I know, yes, it functions a lot like an IPS. AHVA panels are the "IPS" panels in some high end 144Hz+ monitors like the Acer XB270HU (and 271?) if I'm not mistaken. I see them just plain marketed as IPS to prevent confusion.
As long as backlighting is a thing, glow will be an issue. Even my stupidly overpriced Dell U2713H, a "10 bit" (8 + FRC) AH-IPS, has noticeable glow on the edges despite being all about image quality above all else. Yet I'd still take this monitor over most of the options out there.
I find the issues non-IPS panels have to be far worse than glow. I don't like the viewing angles and colour reproduction on VA panels, the ones I had were quite terrible. I'm sure it's improved, but I still wouldn't take one over an IPS.
Honestly the blacks on any sort of LCD suck, even ones which have area specific backlight control. If deep blacks are really what you're after you're going to have to wait until OLED monitors become affordable.
Yeah agreed, the IPS glow issue is annoying but the viewing angles of va panels are real bad, even if they have better black levels you need to be sitting dead center to get them. Maybe curved va panels negate this somewhat.
I have been using an ASUS PB278Q for the past few years which has the ips glow but otherwise great image quality and viewing angles. Looking for a 21:9 gsync monitor moving forward I hear samsung is making a gsync version of their new quantum dot gaming monitor range. Will wait for reviews; specifically regarding viewing angles as the current freesync models use VA panels.
As far as I know, yes, it functions a lot like an IPS. AHVA panels are the "IPS" panels in some high end 144Hz+ monitors like the Acer XB270HU (and 271?) if I'm not mistaken. I see them just plain marketed as IPS to prevent confusion.
As long as backlighting is a thing, glow will be an issue. Even my stupidly overpriced Dell U2713H, a "10 bit" (8 + FRC) AH-IPS, has noticeable glow on the edges despite being all about image quality above all else. Yet I'd still take this monitor over most of the options out there.
I find the issues non-IPS panels have to be far worse than glow. I don't like the viewing angles and colour reproduction on VA panels, the ones I had were quite terrible. I'm sure it's improved, but I still wouldn't take one over an IPS.
Honestly the blacks on any sort of LCD suck, even ones which have area specific backlight control. If deep blacks are really what you're after you're going to have to wait until OLED monitors become affordable.
Yeah agreed, the IPS glow issue is annoying but the viewing angles of va panels are real bad, even if they have better black levels you need to be sitting dead center to get them. Maybe curved va panels negate this somewhat.
I have been using an ASUS PB278Q for the past few years which has the ips glow but otherwise great image quality and viewing angles. Looking for a 21:9 gsync monitor moving forward I hear samsung is making a gsync version of their new quantum dot gaming monitor range. Will wait for reviews; specifically regarding viewing angles as the current freesync models use VA panels.
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#5372601 Posted on: 12/19/2016 05:40 AM
Just one thing to keep in mind, the further something is away from a square the lower the surface area. Ever notice how an old 27" CRT's surface area is enormous compared to a 16:9 27" monitor? 27" diagonally on a 4:3 ratio screen is a far larger surface area than it would be on a 16:9 Screen.
For 21:9 that's pushed even further, you'll have to look up the exact numbers. I'm just saying keep in mind you'll have to get a monitor with a larger diagonal length than 27" to match the same surface area as a 16:9 monitor that's 27" across.
Just one thing to keep in mind, the further something is away from a square the lower the surface area. Ever notice how an old 27" CRT's surface area is enormous compared to a 16:9 27" monitor? 27" diagonally on a 4:3 ratio screen is a far larger surface area than it would be on a 16:9 Screen.
For 21:9 that's pushed even further, you'll have to look up the exact numbers. I'm just saying keep in mind you'll have to get a monitor with a larger diagonal length than 27" to match the same surface area as a 16:9 monitor that's 27" across.
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#5372608 Posted on: 12/19/2016 07:01 AM
Weird product. It's obviously not aimed for competitive gaming, yet it's HD resolution with size of 1440p native panel.
Bad choice for its price.
Weird product. It's obviously not aimed for competitive gaming, yet it's HD resolution with size of 1440p native panel.
Bad choice for its price.
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8ms for a brand new Gaming monitor?