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MSI releases BIOS update for MSI X299 and Z370 to support CPU-Attached RAID
MSI just announced new BIOS updates that allow MSI Intel motherboards to support a function called CPU-Attached RAID. While MSI absolutely did not release any information as to what that entails, we believe it they simply enabled Virtual RAID on CPU, aka Intel VROC.
VROC previously required you to purchase a specific and expensive key to activate. Nobody uses/does that, ergo this option might have become free to use with this BIOS update. You do need to be on Z370 or X299 though.
Virtual RAID on CPU, is specifically designed to RAID NVMe SSDs, and if you can do that over the CPU, it's hardware accelerated whereas typically the chipset arranges this with a CPU assist (eats CPU cycles). MSI also created M.2 Genie, a feature to make setting up RAID 0 for M.2 easier and less time consuming with fewer steps to connect the M.2 devices and enjoy higher speed.
Before experiencing unmatched transfer speed using CPU-Attached RAID, make sure your compatible MSI motherboards has been updated to the latest BIOS version. Updated BIOS version as below could support CPU-Attached RAID. Downloads are available on its product pages.
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#5533695 Posted on: 03/31/2018 08:07 AM
That sure is very noble of MSI to provide such a service to it's customers.
Did you try resetting the BIOS through the jumper/push button on the motherboard (if applicable) while you were on the latest release? From my experience, whenever such issues occurred, it happened because of a profiles created using an older version of BIOS and the settings had to be changed from scratch to avoid such issues. I recall GIGABYTE did this a few times. But nonetheless, your experience with the newer BIOS should be made viral, or else a lot of people are going to end up with fried CPUs, CPU sockets and what not.
That sure is very noble of MSI to provide such a service to it's customers.
MSI Owners beware: I updated my Z370 Bios (SLI Plus) And Voltages went from requested voltage (1.25 at the time) to 0.1 (sometimes more) beyond requested voltate. So I was asking for 1.25 on my stable OC, this was giving me 1.37 Vcore! To get 1.25 I had to dial it down to 1.15. Reverted back to A2 bios and voltages went back to normal
Did you try resetting the BIOS through the jumper/push button on the motherboard (if applicable) while you were on the latest release? From my experience, whenever such issues occurred, it happened because of a profiles created using an older version of BIOS and the settings had to be changed from scratch to avoid such issues. I recall GIGABYTE did this a few times. But nonetheless, your experience with the newer BIOS should be made viral, or else a lot of people are going to end up with fried CPUs, CPU sockets and what not.
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#5533712 Posted on: 03/31/2018 10:34 AM
I have a question for those MB. Provided that z370 gives me 16 pciEx lines, adding 2 nvm disk at 4 lines each, does it gives me just 8 lines for the videocard?
I need to buy a whole new system, and now between x299 and z370 and x470 ( amd ) i m really undecided.
I have a question for those MB. Provided that z370 gives me 16 pciEx lines, adding 2 nvm disk at 4 lines each, does it gives me just 8 lines for the videocard?
I need to buy a whole new system, and now between x299 and z370 and x470 ( amd ) i m really undecided.
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#5533720 Posted on: 03/31/2018 11:09 AM
That sure is very noble of MSI to provide such a service to it's customers.
Did you try resetting the BIOS through the jumper/push button on the motherboard (if applicable) while you were on the latest release? From my experience, whenever such issues occurred, it happened because of a profiles created using an older version of BIOS and the settings had to be changed from scratch to avoid such issues. I recall GIGABYTE did this a few times. But nonetheless, your experience with the newer BIOS should be made viral, or else a lot of people are going to end up with fried CPUs, CPU sockets and what not.
Yes CMOS completely reset and you cannot use profiles from older BIOS with MSI boards, it literally won't let you. I reset everything then manually entered voltages and multipliers but every time it resulted in a 0.10v increase (showing in bios itself and in Hardware info/CPUtemp) compared to entered voltage. I just reverted to the older bios (A2) instead of the latest A3 bios. I messaged MSI in regards to this as yes, some may not notice this if they default voltages are increased and they haven't checked in BIOS
That sure is very noble of MSI to provide such a service to it's customers.
Did you try resetting the BIOS through the jumper/push button on the motherboard (if applicable) while you were on the latest release? From my experience, whenever such issues occurred, it happened because of a profiles created using an older version of BIOS and the settings had to be changed from scratch to avoid such issues. I recall GIGABYTE did this a few times. But nonetheless, your experience with the newer BIOS should be made viral, or else a lot of people are going to end up with fried CPUs, CPU sockets and what not.
Yes CMOS completely reset and you cannot use profiles from older BIOS with MSI boards, it literally won't let you. I reset everything then manually entered voltages and multipliers but every time it resulted in a 0.10v increase (showing in bios itself and in Hardware info/CPUtemp) compared to entered voltage. I just reverted to the older bios (A2) instead of the latest A3 bios. I messaged MSI in regards to this as yes, some may not notice this if they default voltages are increased and they haven't checked in BIOS
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#5533724 Posted on: 03/31/2018 11:21 AM
https://valid.x86.fr/llddmv This is my current overclock. It is on bio 7B46vA2
I had the same issue on my z370 sli plus mb. The new bios pushed my vcore which I set at 1.325v to 1.448v. Yes I reset the bios first. No I did not use a profile. I set it exactly the same as I did in the previous 2 bios to get my
i5 8600k to 5.0ghz.
To put this in perspective, my 8600k overclocks to 46ghz just by changing the multiplier. The vcore never goes above 1.224v at load. With the new bios at rest the vcore was 1.288v. No idea what it is at load, since I reverted back to the old bios.
I just hope that 1.448v did not ruin my i5 8600k. Though I am seeing no effects of it yet.
DO NOT USE THE NEW MSI BIOS 7B46vA3, IT IS TOXIC.
MSI Owners beware: I updated my Z370 Bios (SLI Plus) And Voltages went from requested voltage (1.25 at the time) to 0.1 (sometimes more) beyond requested voltate. So I was asking for 1.25 on my stable OC, this was giving me 1.37 Vcore! To get 1.25 I had to dial it down to 1.15. Reverted back to A2 bios and voltages went back to normal
https://valid.x86.fr/llddmv This is my current overclock. It is on bio 7B46vA2
I had the same issue on my z370 sli plus mb. The new bios pushed my vcore which I set at 1.325v to 1.448v. Yes I reset the bios first. No I did not use a profile. I set it exactly the same as I did in the previous 2 bios to get my
i5 8600k to 5.0ghz.
To put this in perspective, my 8600k overclocks to 46ghz just by changing the multiplier. The vcore never goes above 1.224v at load. With the new bios at rest the vcore was 1.288v. No idea what it is at load, since I reverted back to the old bios.
I just hope that 1.448v did not ruin my i5 8600k. Though I am seeing no effects of it yet.
DO NOT USE THE NEW MSI BIOS 7B46vA3, IT IS TOXIC.
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#5533730 Posted on: 03/31/2018 12:10 PM
Hello..
I would like to ask if this new BIOS is already for download for MB- MSI Z370 Gaming M5. If yes, where, because its not present neither on american nor european support sites. Thank You..
Hello..
I would like to ask if this new BIOS is already for download for MB- MSI Z370 Gaming M5. If yes, where, because its not present neither on american nor european support sites. Thank You..
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#5533734 Posted on: 03/31/2018 12:49 PM
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z370-GAMING-M5#down-bios
Be very careful. The new bios has been raising the vcore on various MSI motherboards. If you decide to install this, first go into your bios and make note of your vcore(cpu voltage). Also check with whatever monitoring software you use. I personally prefer CPUID. Also reset the bios.
After installing the new bios make sure the vcore is the same as before. Issues have been reported on the new MSI bios across several different websites on a variety of MSI z370 motherboards.
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z370-GAMING-M5#down-bios
Be very careful. The new bios has been raising the vcore on various MSI motherboards. If you decide to install this, first go into your bios and make note of your vcore(cpu voltage). Also check with whatever monitoring software you use. I personally prefer CPUID. Also reset the bios.
After installing the new bios make sure the vcore is the same as before. Issues have been reported on the new MSI bios across several different websites on a variety of MSI z370 motherboards.
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#5533843 Posted on: 03/31/2018 09:58 PM
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z370-GAMING-M5#down-bios
Be very careful. The new bios has been raising the vcore on various MSI motherboards. If you decide to install this, first go into your bios and make note of your vcore(cpu voltage). Also check with whatever monitoring software you use. I personally prefer CPUID. Also reset the bios.
After installing the new bios make sure the vcore is the same as before. Issues have been reported on the new MSI bios across several different websites on a variety of MSI z370 motherboards.
Thx for reply..Sorry I missed my BIOS is factory default without any update yet. CPUID value of CPU voltage is 1,328
So my few questions..1. shoud I start also with reseting bios with clearing CMOS memory ? 2. if update doesnt increase voltage should I reinstall my current RAID configuration with M.2 Genie to achieve declared advantage of CPU attached RAID or this raid configuration would be automatically destroyed after BIOS update.. 3. If everything is fine then the same question as asturur asked before : adding 2 nvm disk at 4 lines each, does it give us just 8 lines for the videocard perpetually ?
Thank You again..
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z370-GAMING-M5#down-bios
Be very careful. The new bios has been raising the vcore on various MSI motherboards. If you decide to install this, first go into your bios and make note of your vcore(cpu voltage). Also check with whatever monitoring software you use. I personally prefer CPUID. Also reset the bios.
After installing the new bios make sure the vcore is the same as before. Issues have been reported on the new MSI bios across several different websites on a variety of MSI z370 motherboards.
Thx for reply..Sorry I missed my BIOS is factory default without any update yet. CPUID value of CPU voltage is 1,328
So my few questions..1. shoud I start also with reseting bios with clearing CMOS memory ? 2. if update doesnt increase voltage should I reinstall my current RAID configuration with M.2 Genie to achieve declared advantage of CPU attached RAID or this raid configuration would be automatically destroyed after BIOS update.. 3. If everything is fine then the same question as asturur asked before : adding 2 nvm disk at 4 lines each, does it give us just 8 lines for the videocard perpetually ?
Thank You again..
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#5533857 Posted on: 03/31/2018 11:44 PM
Set the bios to defaults, then flash the bios in the bios. Then clear CMOS, then set defaults, then adjust settings as desired. Boot n monitor CPU voltage...............
Set the bios to defaults, then flash the bios in the bios. Then clear CMOS, then set defaults, then adjust settings as desired. Boot n monitor CPU voltage...............
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#5533910 Posted on: 04/01/2018 03:52 AM
The latest bios for my MSI X299 motherboard, had the necessary micro code to fix the Spectre vulnerability - I was glad to see this finally happen!
The latest bios for my MSI X299 motherboard, had the necessary micro code to fix the Spectre vulnerability - I was glad to see this finally happen!
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#5533976 Posted on: 04/01/2018 01:53 PM
Thx for reply..Sorry I missed my BIOS is factory default without any update yet. CPUID value of CPU voltage is 1,328
So my few questions..1. shoud I start also with reseting bios with clearing CMOS memory ? 2. if update doesnt increase voltage should I reinstall my current RAID configuration with M.2 Genie to achieve declared advantage of CPU attached RAID or this raid configuration would be automatically destroyed after BIOS update.. 3. If everything is fine then the same question as asturur asked before : adding 2 nvm disk at 4 lines each, does it give us just 8 lines for the videocard perpetually ?
Thank You again..
When you flash a raid, the disk/s hold the info. But, you'll have to re-set the raid in the bios for the system to see it.
Thx for reply..Sorry I missed my BIOS is factory default without any update yet. CPUID value of CPU voltage is 1,328
So my few questions..1. shoud I start also with reseting bios with clearing CMOS memory ? 2. if update doesnt increase voltage should I reinstall my current RAID configuration with M.2 Genie to achieve declared advantage of CPU attached RAID or this raid configuration would be automatically destroyed after BIOS update.. 3. If everything is fine then the same question as asturur asked before : adding 2 nvm disk at 4 lines each, does it give us just 8 lines for the videocard perpetually ?
Thank You again..
When you flash a raid, the disk/s hold the info. But, you'll have to re-set the raid in the bios for the system to see it.
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#5534002 Posted on: 04/01/2018 03:44 PM
So I dont want to bother You..But here is my result..Flashed according to your advice..Voltage seems to be fine. ..Than update Raid drivers which appeared in MSI Live update.. RAID has stayed undestroeyed
.... But crystaldiskmark results the same than before 3. Do I need reinstall RAID and all system or is this final settings for my PC..Thanx a lot.. / see Pic1 - 
https://imgur.com/a/ywIBO
When you flash a raid, the disk/s hold the info. But, you'll have to re-set the raid in the bios for the system to see it.
So I dont want to bother You..But here is my result..Flashed according to your advice..Voltage seems to be fine. ..Than update Raid drivers which appeared in MSI Live update.. RAID has stayed undestroeyed
.... But crystaldiskmark results the same than before 3. Do I need reinstall RAID and all system or is this final settings for my PC..Thanx a lot.. / see Pic1 - https://imgur.com/a/ywIBO
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#5534040 Posted on: 04/01/2018 08:58 PM
You'll need m.2 nvme ssds. Or optane.
So I dont want to bother You..But here is my result..Flashed according to your advice..Voltage seems to be fine. ..Than update Raid drivers which appeared in MSI Live update.. RAID has stayed undestroeyed .... But crystaldiskmark results the same than before 3. Do I need reinstall RAID and all system or is this final settings for my PC..Thanx a lot.. / see Pic1 - https://imgur.com/a/ywIBO
.... But crystaldiskmark results the same than before 3. Do I need reinstall RAID and all system or is this final settings for my PC..Thanx a lot.. / see Pic1 - https://imgur.com/a/ywIBOYou'll need m.2 nvme ssds. Or optane.
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#5534057 Posted on: 04/01/2018 09:55 PM
Hello..of course..both of them they are..samsung 960 pro nvm m.2.ssd..but no similar settings to intel vroc in bios not found..maybe reset and rebuild raid array with m2 genie will show..o_O
You'll need m.2 nvme ssds. Or optane.
Hello..of course..both of them they are..samsung 960 pro nvm m.2.ssd..but no similar settings to intel vroc in bios not found..maybe reset and rebuild raid array with m2 genie will show..o_O
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#5534060 Posted on: 04/01/2018 10:08 PM
On Asus Rampage vi Apex x299 I had to set pci-e slots to "storage" or something. Suddenly "vroc" settings came in bios. Can't remember exactly. Easter vacation now, and using the phone :p
Ps: I'm using 3x Aic 900p 480GB optane. 2x in raid-0 vroc (temp storage, scratch etc) , and one for OS
Hello..of course..both of them they are..samsung 960 pro nvm m.2.ssd..but no similar settings to intel vroc in bios not found..maybe reset and rebuild raid array with m2 genie will show..o_O
On Asus Rampage vi Apex x299 I had to set pci-e slots to "storage" or something. Suddenly "vroc" settings came in bios. Can't remember exactly. Easter vacation now, and using the phone :p
Ps: I'm using 3x Aic 900p 480GB optane. 2x in raid-0 vroc (temp storage, scratch etc) , and one for OS
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MSI Owners beware: I updated my Z370 Bios (SLI Plus) And Voltages went from requested voltage (1.25 at the time) to 0.1 (sometimes more) beyond requested voltate. So I was asking for 1.25 on my stable OC, this was giving me 1.37 Vcore! To get 1.25 I had to dial it down to 1.15. Reverted back to A2 bios and voltages went back to normal