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MSI Intros Radeon RX 580 Armor MK2 Graphics Card As Well
A week or so ago we talked about MSI releasing a new updated version of the RX 570, called Armor MK2. MSI now also has added the Radeon RX 580 in this colorful edition.
Typically the Armor edition is black and white, however now a black and red one surfaced, it looks quite good actually. The first models introduced in the new jacket would be the RX 570 and RX 560 graphics cards and the respective OC versions, now the RX 580 follows. Other than the new color design, we do not spot any significant differences. The standard model offers a 1353 MHz core frequency with the OC model clocking at 1366 MHz.
TORX 2.0 FAN: Supremely silent
- Dispersion fan blade: Steeper curved blade accelerating the airflow.
- Traditional fan blade: Provides steady airflow to massive heat sink below.
- Double ball bearing: Strong and lasting core for years of smooth gaming.
Afterburner Overclocking Utility
- Wireless control through Android/iOS devices.
- Predator: In-game video recording.
- Supports multi-GPU setups.
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- Built with Hi-c CAP, Solid CAP, and New SFC components.
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#5515973 Posted on: 02/01/2018 09:00 AM
is it $149 like my 4g OC? ....or some stupid price?/ or better yet >....out of stock.
Both Nvidia and AMD need to tighten their ass up on these crazy prices!
miners are truly killing us pc gamer"s....
That would be my take on this, re-release with similar components as the previous model and make sure there's a "premium" model (+13 Mhz...Oh wow.) and then have the MSRP being the current take on 580 GPU's to profit from the price climb.
At worst re-release with worse components compared to the original and a lesser overclock though it can also be a refined version at times. Kinda varies from one manufacturer to another.
is it $149 like my 4g OC? ....or some stupid price?/ or better yet >....out of stock.
Both Nvidia and AMD need to tighten their ass up on these crazy prices!
miners are truly killing us pc gamer"s....
That would be my take on this, re-release with similar components as the previous model and make sure there's a "premium" model (+13 Mhz...Oh wow.) and then have the MSRP being the current take on 580 GPU's to profit from the price climb.
At worst re-release with worse components compared to the original and a lesser overclock though it can also be a refined version at times. Kinda varies from one manufacturer to another.
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#5515974 Posted on: 02/01/2018 09:06 AM
That would be my take on this, re-release with similar components as the previous model and make sure there's a "premium" model (+13 Mhz...Oh wow.) and then have the MSRP being the current take on 580 GPU's to profit from the price climb.
At worst re-release with worse components compared to the original and a lesser overclock though it can also be a refined version at times. Kinda varies from one manufacturer to another.
Sapphire seems to have the same idea (their Vega 56 release for 789€ !!!), which is a slap in gamer's faces. Good job AMD + Sapphire.
That would be my take on this, re-release with similar components as the previous model and make sure there's a "premium" model (+13 Mhz...Oh wow.) and then have the MSRP being the current take on 580 GPU's to profit from the price climb.
At worst re-release with worse components compared to the original and a lesser overclock though it can also be a refined version at times. Kinda varies from one manufacturer to another.
Sapphire seems to have the same idea (their Vega 56 release for 789€ !!!), which is a slap in gamer's faces. Good job AMD + Sapphire.
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#5516051 Posted on: 02/01/2018 01:53 PM
I was kinda thinking about them too, Nitro model of Vega is gone from just about everywhere with the stores I checked having it de-listed with no info on further shipments so it's well it's gone basically. And now here's Pulse with a few tweaks (One less power connector too curiously enough.) but at a much higher price point. (Allowing Sapphire and probably also AMD to receive a bigger cut though I have no doubt this is going to be the most expensive Vega GPU yet with prices pushed even higher in retail stores.)
For the 580 there's Nitro, Nitro+ and Nitro SE and Nitro+ SE with a blue PCB but I haven't found any comparison about the two and what differs (Plus model is slightly higher clocked but SE to non-SE there's been less info about.) and the more recent SE model is also cheaper though clocked lower.
(Both also have 4 and 8 GB VRAM variants.)
And then for Fury there's the early Tri-X model and then the Nitro model which while it uses a cut Fiji chip that can't be flashed the PCB is no longer stock (Though as with many AMD GPU's the stock PCB was already kinda overkill.) and the cooler saw some minor tweaks as well plus it clocks better though there are two separate editions with the difference being I think it's just the model number unless you look closely on the specs as one has a 1020Mhz clock speed and the other is 1050Mhz.
EDIT: No price suggestion in the article of he MSI Armor, you'd think Mark2 would denote a update as well but we'll see if anyone does a PCB comparison and what the differences between these actually are.
At least the 580 is slowly making a return and seeing some availability now and the price increase isn't as silly as with Vega.
I was kinda thinking about them too, Nitro model of Vega is gone from just about everywhere with the stores I checked having it de-listed with no info on further shipments so it's well it's gone basically. And now here's Pulse with a few tweaks (One less power connector too curiously enough.) but at a much higher price point. (Allowing Sapphire and probably also AMD to receive a bigger cut though I have no doubt this is going to be the most expensive Vega GPU yet with prices pushed even higher in retail stores.)
For the 580 there's Nitro, Nitro+ and Nitro SE and Nitro+ SE with a blue PCB but I haven't found any comparison about the two and what differs (Plus model is slightly higher clocked but SE to non-SE there's been less info about.) and the more recent SE model is also cheaper though clocked lower.
(Both also have 4 and 8 GB VRAM variants.)
And then for Fury there's the early Tri-X model and then the Nitro model which while it uses a cut Fiji chip that can't be flashed the PCB is no longer stock (Though as with many AMD GPU's the stock PCB was already kinda overkill.) and the cooler saw some minor tweaks as well plus it clocks better though there are two separate editions with the difference being I think it's just the model number unless you look closely on the specs as one has a 1020Mhz clock speed and the other is 1050Mhz.
EDIT: No price suggestion in the article of he MSI Armor, you'd think Mark2 would denote a update as well but we'll see if anyone does a PCB comparison and what the differences between these actually are.
At least the 580 is slowly making a return and seeing some availability now and the price increase isn't as silly as with Vega.
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#5516055 Posted on: 02/01/2018 01:59 PM
To be fair here, I don't even think that AMD gets a bigger cut on the chips... I guess they have contracts to limit the costs per chip for the board partners.
I'm surprised though to see new product launches while the old one's aren't produced anymore...
I hope, for the sake of those GAMERS that want to buy the cards, that they are widely available and not just adding another entry to the list of unavailable AMD cards.
To be fair here, I don't even think that AMD gets a bigger cut on the chips... I guess they have contracts to limit the costs per chip for the board partners.
I'm surprised though to see new product launches while the old one's aren't produced anymore...
I hope, for the sake of those GAMERS that want to buy the cards, that they are widely available and not just adding another entry to the list of unavailable AMD cards.
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"1353 MHz core frequency with the OC model clocking at 1366 MHz."
What a joke, 13mhz more on the "OC" version. I wouldn't smear the OC series name with such a pathetic overclock. I hope the card has other features that make it worthy of being labeled OC edition.
Makes me think of my BFG 7800 GT OC from 2005. It was 425 core vs 400 core. But with a bios flash with 1.3v it would 500 core! 465 on 1.2v. I ran it 485 @ 1.3v for gaming. I have it on my wall, and it still works. Its flashed back to stock bios.
Ironically it was the most expensive 7800 GT at the time but I got it on sale, so it was worth it.