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It seems that Microsoft might be working on a Windows 10 pro edition that has been specifically optimized for PC workstations. This Windows 10 Pro version would be able to run four processors and would get Microsoft’s ReFS file system.
This particular version of Windows 10 will be named: ‘Windows 10 Pro for Workstation PCs’. The information became public after a twitter user made some MS slides. The user responded to other users who were analyzing an internal Windows 10 build, ‘Pro for Advanced PCs’, which Microsoft accidently released to testers, reports myce today.
This enthusiast Workstation mode would bring maximum capacity on heavy workloads. The ReFS filesystem would help the OS better to handle large datasets. ReFS is already in use in Windows Server 2012 and 2016 and was designed to be next generation file system after NTFS.
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#5440360 Posted on: 06/08/2017 04:32 PM
Lazy design team who don't want separate OSs to work on IMO
PC is not a console, PC is not a phone
If you resize the settings panel horizontally, it becomes a clone of Windows Phone settings screen
The start menu is basically Windows Phone homescreen / apps draw
And the way MS are going, it's only going to get worse, as more and more of what Windows really is, is dropped and more and more of this retarded phone UI is added, in a few years we'll not have any classic UI left, it'll all be weak and useless XAML app crap
There's already an explorer 'app' kicking about in the preview builds, so we can almost guarantee classic explorer is going bye bye in the future, once that is gone... where is windows?
We many not like the design choices. I'm sure many will though. Basically a casual approach to a desktop.
Lazy design team who don't want separate OSs to work on IMO
PC is not a console, PC is not a phone
If you resize the settings panel horizontally, it becomes a clone of Windows Phone settings screen
The start menu is basically Windows Phone homescreen / apps draw
And the way MS are going, it's only going to get worse, as more and more of what Windows really is, is dropped and more and more of this retarded phone UI is added, in a few years we'll not have any classic UI left, it'll all be weak and useless XAML app crap
There's already an explorer 'app' kicking about in the preview builds, so we can almost guarantee classic explorer is going bye bye in the future, once that is gone... where is windows?
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#5440362 Posted on: 06/08/2017 04:37 PM
Lazy design team who don't want separate OSs to work on IMO
PC is not a console, PC is not a phone
If you resize the settings panel horizontally, it becomes a clone of Windows Phone settings screen
The start menu is basically Windows Phone homescreen / apps draw
And the way MS are going, it's only going to get worse, as more and more of what Windows really is, is dropped and more and more of this retarded phone UI is added, in a few years we'll not have any classic UI left, it'll all be weak and useless XAML app crap
There's already an explorer 'app' kicking about in the preview builds, so we can almost guarantee classic explorer is going bye bye in the future, once that is gone... where is windows?
I can't really answer that one. Windows 10 is still good for what it is providing you are prepered to tweak and uninstall all the pointless apps.
Lazy design team who don't want separate OSs to work on IMO
PC is not a console, PC is not a phone
If you resize the settings panel horizontally, it becomes a clone of Windows Phone settings screen
The start menu is basically Windows Phone homescreen / apps draw
And the way MS are going, it's only going to get worse, as more and more of what Windows really is, is dropped and more and more of this retarded phone UI is added, in a few years we'll not have any classic UI left, it'll all be weak and useless XAML app crap
There's already an explorer 'app' kicking about in the preview builds, so we can almost guarantee classic explorer is going bye bye in the future, once that is gone... where is windows?
I can't really answer that one. Windows 10 is still good for what it is providing you are prepered to tweak and uninstall all the pointless apps.
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#5440365 Posted on: 06/08/2017 04:43 PM
I just run LTSB 2016 instead, comes without any apps, store, edge, cortana etc
Just having a rant really, one of those days, but I seriously can see Win 10 going down a dark path and turning into something unrecognisable, right now it still has enough 'Windows' in it to be acceptable, although annoying, but I'm going to estimate in 2~ years it'll be something completely different
IIRC there is talk of a new UI anyway called 'Fluent', possible they will introduce a new explorer UI with that, not sure but can't see why they would be developing an XAML app explorer if that was not on the cards
I can't really answer that one. Windows 10 is still good for what it is providing you are prepered to tweak and uninstall all the pointless apps.
I just run LTSB 2016 instead, comes without any apps, store, edge, cortana etc
Just having a rant really, one of those days, but I seriously can see Win 10 going down a dark path and turning into something unrecognisable, right now it still has enough 'Windows' in it to be acceptable, although annoying, but I'm going to estimate in 2~ years it'll be something completely different
IIRC there is talk of a new UI anyway called 'Fluent', possible they will introduce a new explorer UI with that, not sure but can't see why they would be developing an XAML app explorer if that was not on the cards
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#5440370 Posted on: 06/08/2017 04:59 PM
No. They are planning to release a Windows 10 version that can use up to 4 CPUs and also support ReFS.
Currently, Windows 10 can only use 2 CPUs, and doesn't support ReFS. For more CPUs and ReFS support, you need a Windows Server license (which is more expensive.) This is MS providing a cheaper way to use more CPUs and the new FS in a non-server OS.
If you need more than 4 CPUs, you'd still need Windows Server.
from what i know ReFS already supported since windows8
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/95cdcdf9-b153-4235-80e8-ca11cda1bcbf/how-do-i-install-windows-8-to-the-new-refs-resilient-file-system?forum=w8itproinstall
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/29897-enable-disable-refs-file-system-windows-8-1-windows-10-a.html
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/refs-support-in-windows-10-creators-update-v1703.393177/
in system32 and SysWOW64, u should have "uReFS.dll"
not sure for win10home (maybe ms not include it?)... but win10pro/ent have it
indeed it need registry "hack" but doesnt mean the OS dont support for it
so as it already supported i think that win10-WS version will use ReFS by default instead NTFS
No. They are planning to release a Windows 10 version that can use up to 4 CPUs and also support ReFS.
Currently, Windows 10 can only use 2 CPUs, and doesn't support ReFS. For more CPUs and ReFS support, you need a Windows Server license (which is more expensive.) This is MS providing a cheaper way to use more CPUs and the new FS in a non-server OS.
If you need more than 4 CPUs, you'd still need Windows Server.
from what i know ReFS already supported since windows8
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/95cdcdf9-b153-4235-80e8-ca11cda1bcbf/how-do-i-install-windows-8-to-the-new-refs-resilient-file-system?forum=w8itproinstall
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/29897-enable-disable-refs-file-system-windows-8-1-windows-10-a.html
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/refs-support-in-windows-10-creators-update-v1703.393177/
in system32 and SysWOW64, u should have "uReFS.dll"
not sure for win10home (maybe ms not include it?)... but win10pro/ent have it
indeed it need registry "hack" but doesnt mean the OS dont support for it
so as it already supported i think that win10-WS version will use ReFS by default instead NTFS
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I still think they should have kept PC with a PC OS, none of this mobile / touch UI / app rubbish, keep that for touch devices / consoles where big and colourful works
And tbh, tablet mode is a joke, why have a tablet mode when you are designing the whole OS for touch anyway? What's the point in a big stupid start menu with huge tiles if you also have a tablet mode?
Same with the settings panel, leave normal mode (PC mode) with classic normal UI, and change everything to the new touch UI for tablet mode
We many not like the design choices. I'm sure many will though. Basically a casual approach to a desktop.