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Microsoft will announce DirectX 12 March 20
Microsoft has prepared a small teaser on their website in which they make note of DirectX 12 being announced March 20. So lte me just say, heck yeah finally ! This will happen at the game developers conference in San Francisco. Microsoft will host two conferences called 'DirectX: Evolving Microsoft's Graphics Platform' and 'DirectX: Direct3D Futures'. On MSDN Microsoft now also announced DX 12.
“Driver overhead has been a frustrating reality for game developers for the entire life of the PC game industry. On desktop systems, driver overhead can decrease frame rate, while on mobile devices driver overhead is more insidious–robbing both battery life and frame rate. In this unprecedented sponsored session, Graham Sellers (AMD), Tim Foley (Intel), Cass Everitt (NVIDIA) and John McDonald (NVIDIA) will present high-level concepts available in today’s OpenGL implementations that radically reduce driver overhead–by up to 10x or more. The techniques presented will apply to all major vendors and are suitable for use across multiple platforms. Additionally, they will demonstrate practical demos of the techniques in action in an extensible, open source comparison framework.”
From the looks of it (think mantle here) the earlier rumors on low-level access and control over hardware have been true. This will be a major feature of DX12 and will lower CPU overhead and thus cycles. Anyway, March 20th we'll learn more about the up and coming DX12. let's just hope you are not forced to upgrade to a new version of Windows to be able to use it.
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#4777780 Posted on: 03/06/2014 11:42 AM
Directx 12 will probably be for Windows 9. People whinging that there's no Windows 7 or 8.1 need to realise that it's a business.
Awww so you bought a new car and 2 years later they bring out a better engine. Oh wait? You can't get a free upgrade? You going to whinge about that too?!
AMD brought mantle support for 2 years old cards. Not only 290 series.
What M$ doing is not a business, its a robbery. Windows 7 is still supported, not like expired XP. Not like I care for DX12. Mantle does that and more, not much to lose for AMD owners.
And it will take another 2 years for developers to implement DX12. So yeah, expect DX12 around 2017.
Directx 12 will probably be for Windows 9. People whinging that there's no Windows 7 or 8.1 need to realise that it's a business.
Awww so you bought a new car and 2 years later they bring out a better engine. Oh wait? You can't get a free upgrade? You going to whinge about that too?!
AMD brought mantle support for 2 years old cards. Not only 290 series.
What M$ doing is not a business, its a robbery. Windows 7 is still supported, not like expired XP. Not like I care for DX12. Mantle does that and more, not much to lose for AMD owners.
And it will take another 2 years for developers to implement DX12. So yeah, expect DX12 around 2017.
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#4777782 Posted on: 03/06/2014 11:44 AM
Directx 12 will probably be for Windows 9. People whinging that there's no Windows 7 or 8.1 need to realise that it's a business.
Awww so you bought a new car and 2 years later they bring out a better engine. Oh wait? You can't get a free upgrade? You going to whinge about that too?!
Implementation of a radically new Directx will require a new driver model, and it may simply be not worth it for Microsoft to support it on anything but Windows 9. Remember by supporting it on an OS you are no longer making money on, as an additional feature, a feature that is a selling point for your new OS, would be just silly. This is especially true if you have to do a lot of work for it to actually get it working properly, which they would probably have to do.
Porting DX11 to Vista didn't "hurt" Windows 7, nor did Vista's DX10 exclusivity, and DX11.1/11.2 exclusivity for Windows 8 help them by any substantial degree
Even for Microsoft, there's a potential business benefit by porting DX12 to the older operating systems. It would decrease the appeal of using OpenGL instead of DX
Directx 12 will probably be for Windows 9. People whinging that there's no Windows 7 or 8.1 need to realise that it's a business.
Awww so you bought a new car and 2 years later they bring out a better engine. Oh wait? You can't get a free upgrade? You going to whinge about that too?!
Implementation of a radically new Directx will require a new driver model, and it may simply be not worth it for Microsoft to support it on anything but Windows 9. Remember by supporting it on an OS you are no longer making money on, as an additional feature, a feature that is a selling point for your new OS, would be just silly. This is especially true if you have to do a lot of work for it to actually get it working properly, which they would probably have to do.
Porting DX11 to Vista didn't "hurt" Windows 7, nor did Vista's DX10 exclusivity, and DX11.1/11.2 exclusivity for Windows 8 help them by any substantial degree
Even for Microsoft, there's a potential business benefit by porting DX12 to the older operating systems. It would decrease the appeal of using OpenGL instead of DX
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#4777789 Posted on: 03/06/2014 12:00 PM
Glad i just got this new video card....
Glad i just got this new video card....
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#4777790 Posted on: 03/06/2014 12:04 PM
U card is not new.
Glad i just got this new video card....
U card is not new.
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So are you saying you think that Windows 7 will not support 11.2 and will for whatever reason skip it and support 12? Pretty wishful thinking. I hope you're right. I'm not aware of release a Windows that supports a version of DX and not every version before it.