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Microsoft will add ‘login with SMS code’ options on all Windows 10 versions
Microsoft announced all Windows 10 versions will get the option to set up and sign in to the operating systems through SMS / text messages. By using this option, you can login without using a password anymore. The company has been trying for some time to get rid of passwords in Windows 10.
The feature is enabled in the Windows Insiders version, today we are releasing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 18309 (19H1) to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring.
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Signing in to Windows with password-less Microsoft accounts on all Windows 10 editions
We’re pushing forward on eliminating passwords and keeping your accounts safe with another cool feature. With Build 18305, we announced support for setting up and signing in to Windows 10 with a phone number account, without having to create, or deal with the hassle of a password for Insiders using the Windows 10 Home edition. Today, that support is extending to all Windows 10 editions!
If you have a Microsoft account with your phone number, you can use an SMS code to sign inwithout and set up your account on Windows 10. Once you’ve setup your account, you can use Windows Hello Face, Fingerprint, or a PIN (depending on your device capabilities) to sign in to Windows 10. No password needed anywhere!
Creating a password-less phone number account
If you don’t already have a password-less phone number account, you can create one in a mobile app like Word on your iOS or Android device to try it out. Simply go to Word and sign up with your phone number by entering your phone number under “Sign in or sign up for free”.
Add your password-less phone number account to Windows
Now that you’ve created a password-less phone number account, you can use it to sign in to Windows with the following steps:
- Add your account to Windows from Settings > Accounts > Family & other Users > “Add someone else to this PC”.
- Lock your device and select your phone number account from the Windows sign-in screen.
- Since your account doesn’t have a password, select ‘Sign in options’, click the alternative ‘PIN’ tile, and click ‘Sign in’.
- Go through web sign in and Windows Hello set up (this is what you’ll use to sign in to your account on subsequent sign ins)
You can now enjoy the benefits of signing in to Windows with your password-less phone number account.
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#5624196 Posted on: 01/07/2019 12:52 PM
Well, passwordless has quite other meaning here.
It means that you have no option to use password... No internet => Windows can't request sms => no login unless Other personally bound login options are enabled.
MS is basically collecting your photo, fingerprint and phone number (if you enable them to). Very clever.
Well, passwordless has quite other meaning here.
It means that you have no option to use password... No internet => Windows can't request sms => no login unless Other personally bound login options are enabled.
MS is basically collecting your photo, fingerprint and phone number (if you enable them to). Very clever.
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#5624197 Posted on: 01/07/2019 12:52 PM
On other hand it is way less intrusive and way more secure than what Amazon and Google does...
But shall we accept this too?
( This question doesn't need a reply, it's just to make you think about another way to live digital stuff )
On other hand it is way less intrusive and way more secure than what Amazon and Google does...
But shall we accept this too?
( This question doesn't need a reply, it's just to make you think about another way to live digital stuff )
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#5624281 Posted on: 01/07/2019 03:50 PM
I already use my mobile phone as a extra layer of security for my email accounts, steam, battlenet, uplay, paypal, xbox accounts, so this is really nothing new, i am surprised it took MS so long to offer such a feature on Windows.
I already use my mobile phone as a extra layer of security for my email accounts, steam, battlenet, uplay, paypal, xbox accounts, so this is really nothing new, i am surprised it took MS so long to offer such a feature on Windows.
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#5624286 Posted on: 01/07/2019 03:53 PM
There is fundamental difference.
You have it for remote access accounts which can be accessed from anywhere. (I do use it too.)
Your home computer/laptop is subject of Physical-Security. If you do not have that, no kind of login security will save you.
I already use my mobile phone as a extra layer of security for my email accounts, steam, battlenet, uplay, paypal, xbox accounts, so this is really nothing new, i am surprised it took MS so long to offer such a feature on Windows.
There is fundamental difference.
You have it for remote access accounts which can be accessed from anywhere. (I do use it too.)
Your home computer/laptop is subject of Physical-Security. If you do not have that, no kind of login security will save you.
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#5624294 Posted on: 01/07/2019 04:04 PM
Last 5 years i unloked 4 computers that their owner forgot the password ....so i guess now this will be over... Especially if they loose their phone to....
Fun momment is their face looking at me like i am so top ranked cracker ... While in reality i do not even boot in a cell to do that , just boot from usb usb the rest is auto pilot :p
Last 5 years i unloked 4 computers that their owner forgot the password ....so i guess now this will be over... Especially if they loose their phone to....
Fun momment is their face looking at me like i am so top ranked cracker ... While in reality i do not even boot in a cell to do that , just boot from usb usb the rest is auto pilot :p
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#5624332 Posted on: 01/07/2019 04:55 PM
There is fundamental difference.
You have it for remote access accounts which can be accessed from anywhere. (I do use it too.)
Your home computer/laptop is subject of Physical-Security. If you do not have that, no kind of login security will save you.
I don't think in this day and age there can ever be too much security on our devices, so MS add another to use at the end users discretion, and why not, if some find a use for it good enough, those that don't won't even know its there, more options for the consumer is always better then less.
There is fundamental difference.
You have it for remote access accounts which can be accessed from anywhere. (I do use it too.)
Your home computer/laptop is subject of Physical-Security. If you do not have that, no kind of login security will save you.
I don't think in this day and age there can ever be too much security on our devices, so MS add another to use at the end users discretion, and why not, if some find a use for it good enough, those that don't won't even know its there, more options for the consumer is always better then less.
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#5624440 Posted on: 01/07/2019 08:21 PM
@Fox2232
Maybe not now, but it's only a question of time, until it'll cost money, privacy or both (sorry, that I'm so pessimistic, but I don't trust that company)
@Fox2232
Maybe not now, but it's only a question of time, until it'll cost money, privacy or both (sorry, that I'm so pessimistic, but I don't trust that company)
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#5624507 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:40 PM
I guess this is a nice feature for those without a Microsoft account who don't want to deal with passwords. If it could be used for 2FA then even better.
I guess this is a nice feature for those without a Microsoft account who don't want to deal with passwords. If it could be used for 2FA then even better.
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#5624535 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:28 PM
Who's gonna send you SMS? I do not expect MS to be sending free SMS to any phone number every time unregistered system asks them to do so.
I guess this is a nice feature for those without a Microsoft account who don't want to deal with passwords. If it could be used for 2FA then even better.
Who's gonna send you SMS? I do not expect MS to be sending free SMS to any phone number every time unregistered system asks them to do so.
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#5624541 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:48 PM
Not sure I understand. Many other sites use a similar system so why wouldn't Microsoft be able to do it?
Who's gonna send you SMS? I do not expect MS to be sending free SMS to any phone number every time unregistered system asks them to do so.
Not sure I understand. Many other sites use a similar system so why wouldn't Microsoft be able to do it?
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#5626419 Posted on: 01/11/2019 03:25 PM
They do. SMS costs next to nothing for businesses.
Who's gonna send you SMS? I do not expect MS to be sending free SMS to any phone number every time unregistered system asks them to do so.
They do. SMS costs next to nothing for businesses.
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#5626504 Posted on: 01/11/2019 06:12 PM
What if someone sets your number there. Local account w/o MS account. no confirmation...
Clicker macro on mouse or keyboard... Locked screen, cursor on send sms.
They do. SMS costs next to nothing for businesses.
What if someone sets your number there. Local account w/o MS account. no confirmation...
Clicker macro on mouse or keyboard... Locked screen, cursor on send sms.
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#5626508 Posted on: 01/11/2019 06:21 PM
What if someone sets your number there. Local account w/o MS account. no confirmation...
Clicker macro on mouse or keyboard... Locked screen, cursor on send sms.
I assume you have to verify your phone number first.
What if someone sets your number there. Local account w/o MS account. no confirmation...
Clicker macro on mouse or keyboard... Locked screen, cursor on send sms.
I assume you have to verify your phone number first.
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#5626515 Posted on: 01/11/2019 06:37 PM
On local account? You do it on your phone and next thing is registry mod.
I assume you have to verify your phone number first.
On local account? You do it on your phone and next thing is registry mod.
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