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Microsoft thinks there might not be new console generations
Engadget sat down with Aaron Greenberg, Microsoft's head of Xbox games marketing, to talk about Xbox One, Project Scorpio and the future of console gaming.
"The future of Xbox looks a lot like PC gaming." That's what Engadget editor Nathan Ingraham wrote after speaking with Phil Spencer earlier this year. Spencer spoke about wanting to see a steady stream of hardware innovation rather than seven-year gaps between consoles, citing the smartphone market as inspiration. Greenberg went one step further. In his opinion, this is the last console generation. "We think the future is without console generations," he said, explaining that Project Scorpio was a "big bet" that gamers will embrace that notion.
Q: The Xbox platform has moved forward to have such regular updates and new features coming all the time. It kind of seems like hardware is going the same way. There was a very short gap between the Xbox One and the Xbox One S, and we're probably talking an even shorter gap before Project Scorpio. Do you see a future of console upgrades continually happening? Is this the last console generation?
Greenberg: I think it is. ... For us, we think the future is without console generations; we think that the ability to build a library, a community, to be able to iterate with the hardware -- we're making a pretty big bet on that with Project Scorpio. We're basically saying, "This isn't a new generation; everything you have continues forward and it works." We think of this as a family of devices.
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#5322933 Posted on: 08/18/2016 09:38 AM
So basically - Computers, linux, PC & OSx
I doubt an upgradable console will be made. More like a console with expansion room, much like the N64 with it's RAM slot upgrade.
I see no point in this. It will make for bad releases, lots of bugs.
Look where we are now with PC releases or console day 1 releases.
So basically - Computers, linux, PC & OSx
I doubt an upgradable console will be made. More like a console with expansion room, much like the N64 with it's RAM slot upgrade.
I see no point in this. It will make for bad releases, lots of bugs.
Look where we are now with PC releases or console day 1 releases.
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#5322934 Posted on: 08/18/2016 09:42 AM
They're making it sound like current consoles will play future titles but you'll need to keep buying the latest iteration of Xbox if you want the latest in GFX.
Something like GeForce Now will eventually take over consoles. Pay a small monthly subscription for up-to-date GFX instead of buying a new console every iteration.
They're making it sound like current consoles will play future titles but you'll need to keep buying the latest iteration of Xbox if you want the latest in GFX.
Something like GeForce Now will eventually take over consoles. Pay a small monthly subscription for up-to-date GFX instead of buying a new console every iteration.
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#5322939 Posted on: 08/18/2016 10:02 AM
So yeah, like smartphones are upgradable...
All I read in this short post is 'we want you to buy new hardware not only all 7 years but each year, just like some PC enthusiast do.'
We don't need consoles for that, only working, simpler OSs. Or what Spets says, streaming games alltogether with a fixed console that just happens to process displaying and inputs.
Spencer spoke about wanting to see a steady stream of hardware innovation rather than seven-year gaps between consoles, citing the smartphone market as inspiration.
So yeah, like smartphones are upgradable...
All I read in this short post is 'we want you to buy new hardware not only all 7 years but each year, just like some PC enthusiast do.'
We don't need consoles for that, only working, simpler OSs. Or what Spets says, streaming games alltogether with a fixed console that just happens to process displaying and inputs.
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#5322945 Posted on: 08/18/2016 10:36 AM
It is not bad idea as long as they implement some kind of smart scaling, so the older "No longer versions" of consoles can play new games at lower resolutions/details.
One wonders why AMD absorbs company doing exactly that.
It is not bad idea as long as they implement some kind of smart scaling, so the older "No longer versions" of consoles can play new games at lower resolutions/details.
One wonders why AMD absorbs company doing exactly that.
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Upgradeable consoles would be good even if it was only the GPU
Future console games will be coded/patched to use various GPU's depending on the GPU you are using the game would enable more graphic options.
It would bring consoles to the upgrade world fanboy heaven
This would be good for the PC only 1 brand in consoles is bad