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Microsoft States It's Time to Kill Off the Password
Microsoft's solution to the password would be you. In what seems to be evangelizing for Windows Hello, its facial, fingerprint, and iris-scanning system, the company is promoting its superiority of biometrics over strings of typed text for security.
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#5506472 Posted on: 01/02/2018 06:33 PM
100% Agree.
Biometrics is a Username, NOT a password.
It identifies you, it cannot be used as a password, as it cannot be revoked or changed.
Although not really mentioned, this ability was added not so long ago..
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mmpc/2017/10/23/move-away-from-passwords-deploy-windows-hello-today/
IMO at the end of the day, not all users are using passwords appropriately, organisations I've worked with are trying to curb this attitude by making authentication simpler / encouraging passphrases over passwords however password resets still make up a huge portion of service desk calls - This hasnt been limited to 1 or 2 companies but almost all I've worked with. Its up to the organisations to decide between Usability and Security however I think Microsoft are giving them some genuinely useful solutions.
100% Agree.
Biometrics is a Username, NOT a password.
It identifies you, it cannot be used as a password, as it cannot be revoked or changed.
Although not really mentioned, this ability was added not so long ago..
Multi-factor device unlock
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mmpc/2017/10/23/move-away-from-passwords-deploy-windows-hello-today/
IMO at the end of the day, not all users are using passwords appropriately, organisations I've worked with are trying to curb this attitude by making authentication simpler / encouraging passphrases over passwords however password resets still make up a huge portion of service desk calls - This hasnt been limited to 1 or 2 companies but almost all I've worked with. Its up to the organisations to decide between Usability and Security however I think Microsoft are giving them some genuinely useful solutions.
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#5506495 Posted on: 01/02/2018 07:54 PM
No substitute for a strong password, especially if you change it consistently.
No substitute for a strong password, especially if you change it consistently.
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#5506496 Posted on: 01/02/2018 07:55 PM
on a side note, for the not so savvy reading this thread, please change your passwords from1234, 2345 , 1234 to something easy to remember but not easy to crack, for eg. " y0ud0n0tm3s5w1thth3z0hAn " or "wh3n_3v3ry0n3_n33d5_2_c0m3_1_n33d_2_kum"
on a side note, for the not so savvy reading this thread, please change your passwords from
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#5506502 Posted on: 01/02/2018 08:16 PM
This is a bit sinister, but I wonder what MS would have to say about the case where law enforcement could illegally use physical violence to force you to unlock a device by putting your finger on the scanner against your will.
This doesn't work with a password and they need to go through the proper procedures to legally order you to unlock the device.
If I put my tinfoil hat on, I'd say MS is doing government agencies some favors here. The only reason I don't put that hat on, is that these devices have so many backdoors anyway, they don't actually need you to unlock it :p
This is a bit sinister, but I wonder what MS would have to say about the case where law enforcement could illegally use physical violence to force you to unlock a device by putting your finger on the scanner against your will.
This doesn't work with a password and they need to go through the proper procedures to legally order you to unlock the device.
If I put my tinfoil hat on, I'd say MS is doing government agencies some favors here. The only reason I don't put that hat on, is that these devices have so many backdoors anyway, they don't actually need you to unlock it :p
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And in the near future...some individuals will be walking around with an eye patch and a missing index finger or hand.
Tin Foil Hat time... it all about having finger prints and facial features at the ready to convict anyone at the authority's leisure (trumped up charges).
Reality wise, this is all just a matter of time. Just think it ridiculous that a home computer used for casual use needs such security measures.
Actually you want scary story ..., it already happened,years ago Mercedes introduced their new lock on new top of the line Merc's that could be opened just with owners fingerprints.It was couple years ago so i don't remember all of details of the story (year when it happened ..),but story goes that some thieves in Malaysia cut owners hand to get Mercedes since there was no keys to unlock and start car just owner's fingerprints.That story was huuuge years ago.