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Microsoft is headhunting a product manager for a consumer product called Microsoft 365, this is a software package that was only offered to companies. Microsoft 365 is a monthly subscription service that includes Windows 10 and the Office 365 package. Based on a job advertisement, it is now deduced that Microsoft will also target the subscription service, which is currently aimed at business customers, to end users. It is believed that the package will include Outlook Mobile, Microsoft To Do, and some MSN apps.
The target audience would be huge and many users may even be happy to pay a monthly fee for a complete package of Windows 10, Office 365 and Mobility and Security.
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#5618172 Posted on: 12/17/2018 11:13 AM
Unless they give people an option to skip their crappy home and pro versions and go for a version that really lets you have control over your PC without 3rd party applications, I'm not even remotely interested.
Unless they give people an option to skip their crappy home and pro versions and go for a version that really lets you have control over your PC without 3rd party applications, I'm not even remotely interested.
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#5618176 Posted on: 12/17/2018 11:24 AM
Linux distros are smiling.
Linux distros are smiling.
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#5618178 Posted on: 12/17/2018 11:27 AM
It would be q good way for Microsoft to get rid of all those pesky customers that have been bugging them all this time....
Seriously, if they do this, they will lose market share hand over fist.
Its been in the pipeline for years, and it seems they never buried it, just waiting for the right time to announce it....
It would be q good way for Microsoft to get rid of all those pesky customers that have been bugging them all this time....
Seriously, if they do this, they will lose market share hand over fist.
Its been in the pipeline for years, and it seems they never buried it, just waiting for the right time to announce it....
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#5618179 Posted on: 12/17/2018 11:30 AM
The point of many expensive software subscriptions like for Adobe Photoshop is two fold:
(a) You may only need it occasionally and can pay month by month, while the full product is really expensive
(b) You get the latest version whenever its out, without having to re-buy it every 2 years (which goes well with temporary use in (a))
That may or may not make sense for something like Office, but there is enough people using Office 365 already.
I don't like subscriptions, I prefer one off payments for most things if it can be helped.
The point of many expensive software subscriptions like for Adobe Photoshop is two fold:
(a) You may only need it occasionally and can pay month by month, while the full product is really expensive
(b) You get the latest version whenever its out, without having to re-buy it every 2 years (which goes well with temporary use in (a))
That may or may not make sense for something like Office, but there is enough people using Office 365 already.
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#5618184 Posted on: 12/17/2018 11:37 AM
I can imagine scenario where it would finally mean something:
- License in bought PC is not pre-paid, therefore not inflating price of notebooks/OEM systems in general
- Then when you start using it, OS will give you choice to use your Retail Windows version, or activate device bound OEM or use subscription for given device
Would be lovely as that would decrease price of 99% of notebooks. And people could actually feel that they can try other OS without throwing money for OS to garbage.
I can imagine scenario where it would finally mean something:
- License in bought PC is not pre-paid, therefore not inflating price of notebooks/OEM systems in general
- Then when you start using it, OS will give you choice to use your Retail Windows version, or activate device bound OEM or use subscription for given device
Would be lovely as that would decrease price of 99% of notebooks. And people could actually feel that they can try other OS without throwing money for OS to garbage.
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#5618214 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:18 PM
Ah. Great. "PC as a pay for service." Except the PC is actually yours and you have to pay a subscription to use it.
Mark my words. This will be mandatory at some point. That's where we're heading towards. You won't own any applications, games or the OS. They'll be "services." Any non-service software will be locked out "for better security."
Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Linux exists.
Ah. Great. "PC as a pay for service." Except the PC is actually yours and you have to pay a subscription to use it.
Mark my words. This will be mandatory at some point. That's where we're heading towards. You won't own any applications, games or the OS. They'll be "services." Any non-service software will be locked out "for better security."
Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Linux exists.
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#5618223 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:33 PM
Ah aha ha haham, dear Nadella, I am going to buy it soon!
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What, you didn't receive the payment, you kinda Indian Scrooge? I was talking about the coffee, you know, I just finished the last can!
Ah aha ha haham, dear Nadella, I am going to buy it soon!
...
What, you didn't receive the payment, you kinda Indian Scrooge? I was talking about the coffee, you know, I just finished the last can!
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#5618224 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:41 PM
Good ol' days when for most of us the only monthly expense needed for having/enjoying a pc or even a console was just your internet provider's bill..
Good ol' days when for most of us the only monthly expense needed for having/enjoying a pc or even a console was just your internet provider's bill..
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#5618227 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:46 PM
You already can't buy MS Office in full. I'd never support them doing this if I can manage it. Even Apple, the Queen of subscription services, knows better than to do this.
You already can't buy MS Office in full. I'd never support them doing this if I can manage it. Even Apple, the Queen of subscription services, knows better than to do this.
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#5618229 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:51 PM
Couldn't care less. Been Windows-free for almost 10 years now thanks to macOS and Linux.
Couldn't care less. Been Windows-free for almost 10 years now thanks to macOS and Linux.
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#5618231 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:58 PM
This isn't new news.. they have been talking about this since before W10 and it being datamined. The line in the sand from what I could figure out was consumer one time purchased vs enterprise being licensed. With w10pro costing more for certain higher core count processors and the change in server licensing from chip to core. It just another money grab.
This isn't new news.. they have been talking about this since before W10 and it being datamined. The line in the sand from what I could figure out was consumer one time purchased vs enterprise being licensed. With w10pro costing more for certain higher core count processors and the change in server licensing from chip to core. It just another money grab.
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#5618232 Posted on: 12/17/2018 01:59 PM
Every now and then I download a Linux distro that I like the look of, just in case this subscription crap looks in danger of becoming a reality on Windows
At least we have alternatives
Every now and then I download a Linux distro that I like the look of, just in case this subscription crap looks in danger of becoming a reality on Windows
At least we have alternatives
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#5618235 Posted on: 12/17/2018 02:10 PM
Fine, i will just resub to SunnyUsenet and get my Windows that way.
Fine, i will just resub to SunnyUsenet and get my Windows that way.
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#5618236 Posted on: 12/17/2018 02:11 PM
So, I paid for Windows 7, and own it outright. Then, I upgraded it to 10. And now, it appears it's just a matter of time until Microsoft wants me to start paying in order to continue using the Windows 10 I essentially already paid for? Not just "NO", but "HELL NO". I'll do whatever I have to do to avoid this. I will NOT pay monthly for an OS. This is nothing but greedy bullshit. HELL NO!
So, I paid for Windows 7, and own it outright. Then, I upgraded it to 10. And now, it appears it's just a matter of time until Microsoft wants me to start paying in order to continue using the Windows 10 I essentially already paid for? Not just "NO", but "HELL NO". I'll do whatever I have to do to avoid this. I will NOT pay monthly for an OS. This is nothing but greedy bullshit. HELL NO!
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