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Microsoft pays 10,000 after automatic Windows 10 installation
Microsoft has to pay a woman $10,000 in compensation after she began a lawsuit against the company because of an unwanted Windows 10 upgrade. Her computer was slow and struggled with crashes after upgrading, is claimed.
The American woman uses her computer for its travel agency. Last year her computer updated to Windows 10, without her consent the says ."I had never heard of Windows 10. No one ever asked me if I wanted to update."
The update failed, her computer become slower and she now had to deal with crashes. The Microsoft helpdesk could not help her solve the problem, she went to court to demand compensation. The woman won this lawsuit.
Microsoft appealed but let it fall "to avoid spending any upcoming problems. The company pays the woman ten thousand dollars. Microsoft gets a lot of criticism about the intrusive way in which the new operating system tries to install. The forceful rollout has angered users, but has also boosted Windows 10 numbers, crossing 270 million users by the end of March 2016, running on 17.43% of the worlds’ computers - second only to Windows 7 - according to data from Netmarketshare. Whether the lawsuit and $10,000 judgment will spawn further suits over failed or forced Windows 10 installs remains to be seen. Goldstein has shown it’s possible, which could open the floodgates.
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#5296589 Posted on: 06/28/2016 10:45 PM
oh my, what a surprise...
by the way embedded posready 2009 is one of the safest platforms nowadays with almost no security patches needed from m$ (despite support running until 2019), you know why? because there is no focus on these systems anymore. and most of the security holes have been closed long time ago. the majority of security vulnerabilities in NT10.0 has yet to be found... what makes it a pretty good target during its still early stage in deployment.
windows 7 on the other hand is hardened already by over 6 years of time in service with service pack and the majority of holes fixed.
you are exactly saying the opposite of what is right actually.
a new OS is always more vulnerable then the older one because the exploits are yet to be discovered by the good and the bad guys...
when maybe the majority of people is sitting on a windows 10 installation ... oh i am just saying one word... AppX framework... big new modular interface with many unknown vantage points that will pop up one by one... all being some day patched by MS (good thing for the consumer is updates will deliver faster unless you wanna be the boss... but which normal human being wants to be the boss of his system... duh...)
but until a hole is patched, it will have been exploited.
windows 7 won't have those holes, either the holes are closed by over 400 security KBs over the last 6 years, or simply due to the fact that w7 doesnt have the store/AppX stuff freshly implemented without much evaluation except for the insider guinea pigs...
so no.
the same principle works for linux.
any kernel upgrade is not instantly taken over into the main build of many distro's because their loopholes are unknown... later there is a kernel upgrade.
same principle with nightly builds for most of the browsers out there...
etc. etc.
TLDR; old systems are by far the safest
reason 1) the majority of their vulnerabilities has already been patched. only occasionally security fixes are needed therefore. -> example xp pos. (EPOSReady 2009)
reason 2) the main target of the most recent penetration tools is of course mainly the holes of the most recent OS that most people use... (that's the same reason why there are less penetrations of OSX machines than ms machines, which by the way doesnt mean OSX is more secure, because in relation the few OSX vulnerabilities that pop up cause less awareness, as the reporting user base is just smaller...there is an interesting article about it from one of the main guys at F-Secure)
another aspect of windows 10 is... they basically do it like all the new early access game deves... let your users/players pay less or nothing and let them do the bug finding for you (insiders... as WELL as productive users in w10's case!!)
...runs much better with 10 over Vista that was on it.
oh my, what a surprise...
by the way embedded posready 2009 is one of the safest platforms nowadays with almost no security patches needed from m$ (despite support running until 2019), you know why? because there is no focus on these systems anymore. and most of the security holes have been closed long time ago. the majority of security vulnerabilities in NT10.0 has yet to be found... what makes it a pretty good target during its still early stage in deployment.
windows 7 on the other hand is hardened already by over 6 years of time in service with service pack and the majority of holes fixed.
you are exactly saying the opposite of what is right actually.
a new OS is always more vulnerable then the older one because the exploits are yet to be discovered by the good and the bad guys...
when maybe the majority of people is sitting on a windows 10 installation ... oh i am just saying one word... AppX framework... big new modular interface with many unknown vantage points that will pop up one by one... all being some day patched by MS (good thing for the consumer is updates will deliver faster unless you wanna be the boss... but which normal human being wants to be the boss of his system... duh...)
but until a hole is patched, it will have been exploited.
windows 7 won't have those holes, either the holes are closed by over 400 security KBs over the last 6 years, or simply due to the fact that w7 doesnt have the store/AppX stuff freshly implemented without much evaluation except for the insider guinea pigs...
so no.
the same principle works for linux.
any kernel upgrade is not instantly taken over into the main build of many distro's because their loopholes are unknown... later there is a kernel upgrade.
same principle with nightly builds for most of the browsers out there...
etc. etc.
TLDR; old systems are by far the safest
reason 1) the majority of their vulnerabilities has already been patched. only occasionally security fixes are needed therefore. -> example xp pos. (EPOSReady 2009)
reason 2) the main target of the most recent penetration tools is of course mainly the holes of the most recent OS that most people use... (that's the same reason why there are less penetrations of OSX machines than ms machines, which by the way doesnt mean OSX is more secure, because in relation the few OSX vulnerabilities that pop up cause less awareness, as the reporting user base is just smaller...there is an interesting article about it from one of the main guys at F-Secure)
another aspect of windows 10 is... they basically do it like all the new early access game deves... let your users/players pay less or nothing and let them do the bug finding for you (insiders... as WELL as productive users in w10's case!!)
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#5296647 Posted on: 06/29/2016 12:10 AM
As expected.
EDIT: Gotta have gud lawers
living in murica is enough i guess
I can almost see the jealousy oozing out of your pores.
Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.
Great thought process bubba. No, those two things are mutually exclusive. In addition, a new operating system is NOT an update. And should I even mention the basic concept that the choice should always lie with the paying consumer?
As expected.
EDIT: Gotta have gud lawers
living in murica is enough i guess
I can almost see the jealousy oozing out of your pores.
Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.
Great thought process bubba. No, those two things are mutually exclusive. In addition, a new operating system is NOT an update. And should I even mention the basic concept that the choice should always lie with the paying consumer?
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#5296807 Posted on: 06/29/2016 06:40 AM
"I had never heard of Windows 10." Cool story sis.
"I had never heard of Windows 10." Cool story sis.
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#5296810 Posted on: 06/29/2016 06:58 AM
I am not jealous. I am making fun of her for abusing others for her own mistake.
I really hope she went through lots of trouble and lost all her money to a lawer she hired.
I can almost see the jealousy oozing out of your pores.
I am not jealous. I am making fun of her for abusing others for her own mistake.
I really hope she went through lots of trouble and lost all her money to a lawer she hired.
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Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.