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Microsoft pays 10,000 after automatic Windows 10 installation
Microsoft has to pay a woman $10,000 in compensation after she began a lawsuit against the company because of an unwanted Windows 10 upgrade. Her computer was slow and struggled with crashes after upgrading, is claimed.
The American woman uses her computer for its travel agency. Last year her computer updated to Windows 10, without her consent the says ."I had never heard of Windows 10. No one ever asked me if I wanted to update."
The update failed, her computer become slower and she now had to deal with crashes. The Microsoft helpdesk could not help her solve the problem, she went to court to demand compensation. The woman won this lawsuit.
Microsoft appealed but let it fall "to avoid spending any upcoming problems. The company pays the woman ten thousand dollars. Microsoft gets a lot of criticism about the intrusive way in which the new operating system tries to install. The forceful rollout has angered users, but has also boosted Windows 10 numbers, crossing 270 million users by the end of March 2016, running on 17.43% of the worlds’ computers - second only to Windows 7 - according to data from Netmarketshare. Whether the lawsuit and $10,000 judgment will spawn further suits over failed or forced Windows 10 installs remains to be seen. Goldstein has shown it’s possible, which could open the floodgates.
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#5296436 Posted on: 06/28/2016 03:50 PM
Why didn't I think of this
Win 10 crashed my business system. I should have thought of this. Useless operating system none the less.
Why didn't I think of this
Win 10 crashed my business system. I should have thought of this. Useless operating system none the less.
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#5296508 Posted on: 06/28/2016 06:51 PM
Totally useless people more like.
I don't understand some people who have to have the very latest and greatest yet they are stuck on a 10+ year old OS.
MS just wants everybody on the same OS because old OSes will become more of a security risk as time goes by.
Of course they are in it for the money but i think very kind of them to give it away for free in the first place.
I have a really old laptop with a single core and 2gb of ram that my misses uses sometimes for browsing and playing FB games. I got Win 10 working on it fine.
In fact it actually runs much better with 10 over Vista that was on it.
Win 10 crashed my business system. I should have thought of this. Useless operating system none the less.
Totally useless people more like.
I don't understand some people who have to have the very latest and greatest yet they are stuck on a 10+ year old OS.
MS just wants everybody on the same OS because old OSes will become more of a security risk as time goes by.
Of course they are in it for the money but i think very kind of them to give it away for free in the first place.
I have a really old laptop with a single core and 2gb of ram that my misses uses sometimes for browsing and playing FB games. I got Win 10 working on it fine.
In fact it actually runs much better with 10 over Vista that was on it.
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#5296555 Posted on: 06/28/2016 08:32 PM
Using a small claims court too so no major money needed for a lawyer very good. Lets get the ball rolling a scr3w microsoft for every cent they deserve for this
Using a small claims court too so no major money needed for a lawyer very good. Lets get the ball rolling a scr3w microsoft for every cent they deserve for this
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#5296569 Posted on: 06/28/2016 09:15 PM
Lol why she didn't roll back?
I wish I could leave there
10k$ ooh Lord...
Gigabyte logitech coolermaster corsair wait me
Microsoft Support could not help her.. which is why she took Microsoft to court and won.
Lol why she didn't roll back?
I wish I could leave there
10k$ ooh Lord...
Gigabyte logitech coolermaster corsair wait me
Microsoft Support could not help her.. which is why she took Microsoft to court and won.
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#5296578 Posted on: 06/28/2016 09:23 PM
Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.
Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.
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#5296589 Posted on: 06/28/2016 09:45 PM
oh my, what a surprise...
by the way embedded posready 2009 is one of the safest platforms nowadays with almost no security patches needed from m$ (despite support running until 2019), you know why? because there is no focus on these systems anymore. and most of the security holes have been closed long time ago. the majority of security vulnerabilities in NT10.0 has yet to be found... what makes it a pretty good target during its still early stage in deployment.
windows 7 on the other hand is hardened already by over 6 years of time in service with service pack and the majority of holes fixed.
you are exactly saying the opposite of what is right actually.
a new OS is always more vulnerable then the older one because the exploits are yet to be discovered by the good and the bad guys...
when maybe the majority of people is sitting on a windows 10 installation ... oh i am just saying one word... AppX framework... big new modular interface with many unknown vantage points that will pop up one by one... all being some day patched by MS (good thing for the consumer is updates will deliver faster unless you wanna be the boss... but which normal human being wants to be the boss of his system... duh...)
but until a hole is patched, it will have been exploited.
windows 7 won't have those holes, either the holes are closed by over 400 security KBs over the last 6 years, or simply due to the fact that w7 doesnt have the store/AppX stuff freshly implemented without much evaluation except for the insider guinea pigs...
so no.
the same principle works for linux.
any kernel upgrade is not instantly taken over into the main build of many distro's because their loopholes are unknown... later there is a kernel upgrade.
same principle with nightly builds for most of the browsers out there...
etc. etc.
TLDR; old systems are by far the safest
reason 1) the majority of their vulnerabilities has already been patched. only occasionally security fixes are needed therefore. -> example xp pos. (EPOSReady 2009)
reason 2) the main target of the most recent penetration tools is of course mainly the holes of the most recent OS that most people use... (that's the same reason why there are less penetrations of OSX machines than ms machines, which by the way doesnt mean OSX is more secure, because in relation the few OSX vulnerabilities that pop up cause less awareness, as the reporting user base is just smaller...there is an interesting article about it from one of the main guys at F-Secure)
another aspect of windows 10 is... they basically do it like all the new early access game deves... let your users/players pay less or nothing and let them do the bug finding for you (insiders... as WELL as productive users in w10's case!!)
...runs much better with 10 over Vista that was on it.
oh my, what a surprise...
by the way embedded posready 2009 is one of the safest platforms nowadays with almost no security patches needed from m$ (despite support running until 2019), you know why? because there is no focus on these systems anymore. and most of the security holes have been closed long time ago. the majority of security vulnerabilities in NT10.0 has yet to be found... what makes it a pretty good target during its still early stage in deployment.
windows 7 on the other hand is hardened already by over 6 years of time in service with service pack and the majority of holes fixed.
you are exactly saying the opposite of what is right actually.
a new OS is always more vulnerable then the older one because the exploits are yet to be discovered by the good and the bad guys...
when maybe the majority of people is sitting on a windows 10 installation ... oh i am just saying one word... AppX framework... big new modular interface with many unknown vantage points that will pop up one by one... all being some day patched by MS (good thing for the consumer is updates will deliver faster unless you wanna be the boss... but which normal human being wants to be the boss of his system... duh...)
but until a hole is patched, it will have been exploited.
windows 7 won't have those holes, either the holes are closed by over 400 security KBs over the last 6 years, or simply due to the fact that w7 doesnt have the store/AppX stuff freshly implemented without much evaluation except for the insider guinea pigs...
so no.
the same principle works for linux.
any kernel upgrade is not instantly taken over into the main build of many distro's because their loopholes are unknown... later there is a kernel upgrade.
same principle with nightly builds for most of the browsers out there...
etc. etc.
TLDR; old systems are by far the safest
reason 1) the majority of their vulnerabilities has already been patched. only occasionally security fixes are needed therefore. -> example xp pos. (EPOSReady 2009)
reason 2) the main target of the most recent penetration tools is of course mainly the holes of the most recent OS that most people use... (that's the same reason why there are less penetrations of OSX machines than ms machines, which by the way doesnt mean OSX is more secure, because in relation the few OSX vulnerabilities that pop up cause less awareness, as the reporting user base is just smaller...there is an interesting article about it from one of the main guys at F-Secure)
another aspect of windows 10 is... they basically do it like all the new early access game deves... let your users/players pay less or nothing and let them do the bug finding for you (insiders... as WELL as productive users in w10's case!!)
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#5296647 Posted on: 06/28/2016 11:10 PM
As expected.
EDIT: Gotta have gud lawers
living in murica is enough i guess
I can almost see the jealousy oozing out of your pores.
Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.
Great thought process bubba. No, those two things are mutually exclusive. In addition, a new operating system is NOT an update. And should I even mention the basic concept that the choice should always lie with the paying consumer?
As expected.
EDIT: Gotta have gud lawers
living in murica is enough i guess
I can almost see the jealousy oozing out of your pores.
Regardless of what runs better.
Microsoft should force updates period.
Great thought process bubba. No, those two things are mutually exclusive. In addition, a new operating system is NOT an update. And should I even mention the basic concept that the choice should always lie with the paying consumer?
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#5296807 Posted on: 06/29/2016 05:40 AM
"I had never heard of Windows 10." Cool story sis.
"I had never heard of Windows 10." Cool story sis.
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#5296810 Posted on: 06/29/2016 05:58 AM
I am not jealous. I am making fun of her for abusing others for her own mistake.
I really hope she went through lots of trouble and lost all her money to a lawer she hired.
I can almost see the jealousy oozing out of your pores.
I am not jealous. I am making fun of her for abusing others for her own mistake.
I really hope she went through lots of trouble and lost all her money to a lawer she hired.
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#5298138 Posted on: 06/30/2016 03:07 PM
I'm not talking about right now, i'm talking about when Win 7 stops getting any support in the near future.
Store/AppX stuff is all removed from win 10 if you want it to be. Win 7 is a Pita firstly because SPs and secondly over 400 KBs as you said. Bloated by KB's and a nightmare now to do a fresh install. Win 10 is a 10 minute install and it's done.
You think MS hasn't learned from all those Win 7 KB's and not made sure Win 10 is already fixed? You talk as if the new OS hasn't had any lessons from previous iterations.
I'm not saying Win 10 isn't more of a target because of course it is but i believe those 400+ KB's are already built into win 10 and vulnerabilities won't be anywhere near as bad as they were with 7.
I'm not talking about right now, i'm talking about when Win 7 stops getting any support in the near future.
Store/AppX stuff is all removed from win 10 if you want it to be. Win 7 is a Pita firstly because SPs and secondly over 400 KBs as you said. Bloated by KB's and a nightmare now to do a fresh install. Win 10 is a 10 minute install and it's done.
You think MS hasn't learned from all those Win 7 KB's and not made sure Win 10 is already fixed? You talk as if the new OS hasn't had any lessons from previous iterations.
I'm not saying Win 10 isn't more of a target because of course it is but i believe those 400+ KB's are already built into win 10 and vulnerabilities won't be anywhere near as bad as they were with 7.
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#5298167 Posted on: 06/30/2016 03:37 PM
Totally useless people more like.
I don't understand some people who have to have the very latest and greatest yet they are stuck on a 10+ year old OS.
MS just wants everybody on the same OS because old OSes will become more of a security risk as time goes by.
Of course they are in it for the money but i think very kind of them to give it away for free in the first place.
I have a really old laptop with a single core and 2gb of ram that my misses uses sometimes for browsing and playing FB games. I got Win 10 working on it fine.
In fact it actually runs much better with 10 over Vista that was on it.
My only problem is that with a new OS comes potentially broken games and drivers which may or may not get fixed.
Totally useless people more like.
I don't understand some people who have to have the very latest and greatest yet they are stuck on a 10+ year old OS.
MS just wants everybody on the same OS because old OSes will become more of a security risk as time goes by.
Of course they are in it for the money but i think very kind of them to give it away for free in the first place.
I have a really old laptop with a single core and 2gb of ram that my misses uses sometimes for browsing and playing FB games. I got Win 10 working on it fine.
In fact it actually runs much better with 10 over Vista that was on it.
My only problem is that with a new OS comes potentially broken games and drivers which may or may not get fixed.
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#5298272 Posted on: 06/30/2016 06:26 PM
Valid concerns but unwarranted because compatibility is being implemented constantly.
I play old games a lot myself and never had any issues recently. As for drivers, if you have an older system and driver support has stopped then i'm afraid you will need to upgrade those unsupported components.
Even if i didn't use Win 10 and say i wanted a new mobo then i'd still make sure it was at least giving support for the newest OS first before buying it.
I bought a 970A-UD3P recently because my sons mobo was an older AMD770 chipset and driver support or bios support mainly was old and has never been upgraded for Win 10. The gigabyte 970/990 boards are really old too but all of them have had recent bios updates for Win 10 support. Of course that's up to Gigabyte to do since nearly all drivers are mobo related.
FC bios for this ancient chipset was released 2016/03/02 which i have to say Kudos to Gigabyte for as they must be concentrating on AM4/Intel right now.
My only problem is that with a new OS comes potentially broken games and drivers which may or may not get fixed.
Valid concerns but unwarranted because compatibility is being implemented constantly.
I play old games a lot myself and never had any issues recently. As for drivers, if you have an older system and driver support has stopped then i'm afraid you will need to upgrade those unsupported components.
Even if i didn't use Win 10 and say i wanted a new mobo then i'd still make sure it was at least giving support for the newest OS first before buying it.
I bought a 970A-UD3P recently because my sons mobo was an older AMD770 chipset and driver support or bios support mainly was old and has never been upgraded for Win 10. The gigabyte 970/990 boards are really old too but all of them have had recent bios updates for Win 10 support. Of course that's up to Gigabyte to do since nearly all drivers are mobo related.
FC bios for this ancient chipset was released 2016/03/02 which i have to say Kudos to Gigabyte for as they must be concentrating on AM4/Intel right now.
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#5298586 Posted on: 07/01/2016 04:08 AM
So..this lady has no idea how to run a computer, but decides to run her business off of that computer she has no idea how to run, and successfully sues microsoft for it?
Remind me never to make any program, ever.
So..this lady has no idea how to run a computer, but decides to run her business off of that computer she has no idea how to run, and successfully sues microsoft for it?
Remind me never to make any program, ever.
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#5298590 Posted on: 07/01/2016 04:23 AM
So..this lady has no idea how to run a computer, but decides to run her business off of that computer she has no idea how to run, and successfully sues microsoft for it?
Remind me never to make any program, ever.
Well, if you decide to work at caffee and one of your customers spil coffee and got burn, there chances you might get sued for making coffee too hot.
You also can be sued for looking at person and be charged with "stalking and sexual abuse".
Its not about what you did wrong, its about how badly someone want to **** you up. Lawers gonna do magic with law, find a weak spot and you in jail in no time, along with charges you won't be able to pay in your whole life.
Don't you love our society? Best thing is not to cross anyone, keep emotions at bay and fix mistakes asap.
EDIT: Don't worry about M$. They could **** that woman back, their lawers probably wanted more money than she demanded, so they end up paying her.
M$ can wipe ass with $10,000. Its nothing for them, like that suing women.
So..this lady has no idea how to run a computer, but decides to run her business off of that computer she has no idea how to run, and successfully sues microsoft for it?
Remind me never to make any program, ever.
Well, if you decide to work at caffee and one of your customers spil coffee and got burn, there chances you might get sued for making coffee too hot.
You also can be sued for looking at person and be charged with "stalking and sexual abuse".
Its not about what you did wrong, its about how badly someone want to **** you up. Lawers gonna do magic with law, find a weak spot and you in jail in no time, along with charges you won't be able to pay in your whole life.
Don't you love our society? Best thing is not to cross anyone, keep emotions at bay and fix mistakes asap.
EDIT: Don't worry about M$. They could **** that woman back, their lawers probably wanted more money than she demanded, so they end up paying her.
M$ can wipe ass with $10,000. Its nothing for them, like that suing women.
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Good,good.
NOt everyone are geeks in computers&gaming as most of you.
As a laptop used for bussines this is a worst nightmare if your database or some documents are broken or stolen because M$$$ dont give a damn about security policy or privacy.
Its not a big money she won,but next time M$$$ maybe will proceed with caution.Exactly!!!!
Lol why she didn't roll back?
I wish I could leave there
10k$ ooh Lord...
Gigabyte logitech coolermaster corsair wait meReverting Windows 10 does not always work. I had a system come in were the client tried doing a roll back and it errored during the process leaving them with a Brick!