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Microsoft Ends Windows 7 Support in 2020, companies can buy security updates up-to 2023
If you're still on Windows 7, Microsoft will be ending support for it in 2020. Organizations, however, can purchase an extended contract for support.
Through the way of extra dough, all of the sudden support will continue to provide paid support for Windows 7 until January 2023, including security updates. This scheme is called Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) and will be per device, also that contract price will increase each year. The Extended Security Updates will be available for Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Enterprise customers with Volume Licensing. Also, Office 365 ProPlus will be supported on devices with an active Windows 7 ESU subscription till 2023. Customers that are in the ESU program will be able to continue to use the Office suite this way.
Though Windows 10 is closing in, Windows 7 actually still has a market share of nearly 40%.
Microsoft working on Xbox that can only stream games - 07/24/2018 07:32 AM
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Microsoft releases updates to patch issues with previously released security patches - 07/23/2018 07:10 AM
Yeah, you need to read that twice, but Microsoft released new updates due to issues caused by security patches released earlier this month. These updates caused issues with Exchange, Lync and Sky...
Synaptics, AMD Collaborate on Next-Generation Microsoft Operating System - 07/16/2018 06:46 AM
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Microsoft launches Surface Go Tablet starting at $399 - 07/10/2018 07:53 AM
Well, that took less long than expected, it seems Microsoft quickly announced its Surface Go, a 10" Surface Tablet after the leak yesterday, a 4G version will be added later this year. ...
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#5583605 Posted on: 09/12/2018 02:57 AM
If you're a power user here complaining about the UI you can simply learn the nuances of "PC-settings" (modern UI) complemented with Known-Good freeware such as Classic-Shell; it's not that hard.
In addition within the apps & features portion you can disable things like Xbox live, Game-mode etc... or set a Group Policy where they apply for things you hate. There are some good scripts out there as well that eliminate all traces of Edge and other built-in apps as well.
It takes a matter of minutes - beyond that the reviews are in the performance is negligible - 1803 - defer to it or check the hidden updates KB MS put out for Win 10 download the tool in it - block the update and wait until the next if you hate it so... holy cow people. lol. I use 1803 personally ...
If you're a power user here complaining about the UI you can simply learn the nuances of "PC-settings" (modern UI) complemented with Known-Good freeware such as Classic-Shell; it's not that hard.
In addition within the apps & features portion you can disable things like Xbox live, Game-mode etc... or set a Group Policy where they apply for things you hate. There are some good scripts out there as well that eliminate all traces of Edge and other built-in apps as well.
It takes a matter of minutes - beyond that the reviews are in the performance is negligible - 1803 - defer to it or check the hidden updates KB MS put out for Win 10 download the tool in it - block the update and wait until the next if you hate it so... holy cow people. lol. I use 1803 personally ...
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#5583610 Posted on: 09/12/2018 03:52 AM
Bye bye W7 it was fun for the years i used to run that old OS , now i only use W10 and not looking back. I do use W7 only for benchmarking purposes and that's it.
Bye bye W7 it was fun for the years i used to run that old OS , now i only use W10 and not looking back. I do use W7 only for benchmarking purposes and that's it.
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#5583629 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:26 AM
Will there be a better version of Windows released in 2020?
Will there be a better version of Windows released in 2020?
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#5583632 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:32 AM
You never used the desktop version of RHEL have you? RHEL7 is not ancient at all. Heck its about the same age as windows 10. Installing apps from a RPM file is no harder then a installer file. But if you have to have a package manger to hold your hand you can enable the EPEL Repo or RPMfusion. And most distros ship somewhat striped. 9 times out of 10 the end users will have to install something like a media player, photo editor, steam, email app and so on.
But yeah, RHEL 7 sure look like XP you got that right.
Put that ugly Gnome3 away. Or out of its misery.
You never used the desktop version of RHEL have you? RHEL7 is not ancient at all. Heck its about the same age as windows 10. Installing apps from a RPM file is no harder then a installer file. But if you have to have a package manger to hold your hand you can enable the EPEL Repo or RPMfusion. And most distros ship somewhat striped. 9 times out of 10 the end users will have to install something like a media player, photo editor, steam, email app and so on.
But yeah, RHEL 7 sure look like XP you got that right.
Put that ugly Gnome3 away. Or out of its misery.
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#5583633 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:34 AM
cannot believe I am saying this - I couldn't agree more with you Fox'
Put that ugly Gnome3 away. Or out of its misery.
cannot believe I am saying this - I couldn't agree more with you Fox'
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#5583634 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:34 AM
If you're a power user here complaining about the UI you can simply learn the nuances of "PC-settings" (modern UI) complemented with Known-Good freeware such as Classic-Shell; it's not that hard.
In addition within the apps & features portion you can disable things like Xbox live, Game-mode etc... or set a Group Policy where they apply for things you hate. There are some good scripts out there as well that eliminate all traces of Edge and other built-in apps as well.
It takes a matter of minutes - beyond that the reviews are in the performance is negligible - 1803 - defer to it or check the hidden updates KB MS put out for Win 10 download the tool in it - block the update and wait until the next if you hate it so... holy cow people. lol. I use 1803 personally ...
Bad advice, even if people do not like edge, it is too interconnected with other things. removing its binaries and libs will cause problems down the road. For someone who does not mind reinstall in case of troubles, it is OK. but in general, edge, however undesirable it is, has to stay.
cannot believe I am saying this - I couldn't agree more with you Fox'
Gnome3 is likely worst thing ever made on linux, for linux and being still in use.
If you're a power user here complaining about the UI you can simply learn the nuances of "PC-settings" (modern UI) complemented with Known-Good freeware such as Classic-Shell; it's not that hard.
In addition within the apps & features portion you can disable things like Xbox live, Game-mode etc... or set a Group Policy where they apply for things you hate. There are some good scripts out there as well that eliminate all traces of Edge and other built-in apps as well.
It takes a matter of minutes - beyond that the reviews are in the performance is negligible - 1803 - defer to it or check the hidden updates KB MS put out for Win 10 download the tool in it - block the update and wait until the next if you hate it so... holy cow people. lol. I use 1803 personally ...
Bad advice, even if people do not like edge, it is too interconnected with other things. removing its binaries and libs will cause problems down the road. For someone who does not mind reinstall in case of troubles, it is OK. but in general, edge, however undesirable it is, has to stay.
cannot believe I am saying this - I couldn't agree more with you Fox'
Gnome3 is likely worst thing ever made on linux, for linux and being still in use.
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#5583635 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:36 AM
I can try to find the one I'd been looking at and see if it just kills the executable - reg keys / leaves anything needed that's essential like what are we talking dlls here? (Honestly I can't think of it really causing an issue long as SFC clears it post + IE is tied to what's essential no?)
EDIT: Those scripts over at "WinAero" you know?
Bad advice, even if people do not like edge, it is too interconnected with other things. removing its binaries and libs will cause problems down the road. For someone who does not mind reinstall in case of troubles, it is OK. but in general, edge, however undesirable it is, has to stay.
I can try to find the one I'd been looking at and see if it just kills the executable - reg keys / leaves anything needed that's essential like what are we talking dlls here? (Honestly I can't think of it really causing an issue long as SFC clears it post + IE is tied to what's essential no?)
EDIT: Those scripts over at "WinAero" you know?
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#5583638 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:41 AM
I can try to find the one I'd been looking at and see if it just kills the executable - reg keys / leaves anything needed that's essential like what are we talking dlls here? (Honestly I can't think of it really causing an issue long as SFC clears it post + IE is tied to what's essential no?)
EDIT: Those scripts over at "WinAero" you know?
Looks like they uninstall it fully:
MSFN user Legolash20 has created and released a script to uninstall and remove Edge browser from Windows 10. Our friends at WinAero has further tweaked the script to make it better and easier to use. The script allows you remove Edge in a few seconds.
WARNING: And before you jump to the download page, please remember that Edge is part of Windows 10 and uninstalling it might affect the performance and stability of your Windows 10 PC. We recommend you manually create a system restore point before using the script to uninstall Edge.
I can try to find the one I'd been looking at and see if it just kills the executable - reg keys / leaves anything needed that's essential like what are we talking dlls here? (Honestly I can't think of it really causing an issue long as SFC clears it post + IE is tied to what's essential no?)
EDIT: Those scripts over at "WinAero" you know?
Looks like they uninstall it fully:
MSFN user Legolash20 has created and released a script to uninstall and remove Edge browser from Windows 10. Our friends at WinAero has further tweaked the script to make it better and easier to use. The script allows you remove Edge in a few seconds.
WARNING: And before you jump to the download page, please remember that Edge is part of Windows 10 and uninstalling it might affect the performance and stability of your Windows 10 PC. We recommend you manually create a system restore point before using the script to uninstall Edge.
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#5583640 Posted on: 09/12/2018 06:53 AM
Yeah... just finished the reading from the msfn thread.. you're right
https://msfn.org/board/topic/152688-win6x-registry-tweak/
.cmd beside the wim tweak tool / launch it and let it fly...
You got me curious though - what exactly does it pull that should stay ? Why a need for it to cause instability if removed ... what were those necessary libraries you mentioned? My 10 install doesn't have Edge, now I'm wondering if maybe I'm missing critical files / so far haven't had glitches / bugs of notice...
Looks like they uninstall it fully:
Yeah... just finished the reading from the msfn thread.. you're right
https://msfn.org/board/topic/152688-win6x-registry-tweak/
.cmd beside the wim tweak tool / launch it and let it fly...
You got me curious though - what exactly does it pull that should stay ? Why a need for it to cause instability if removed ... what were those necessary libraries you mentioned? My 10 install doesn't have Edge, now I'm wondering if maybe I'm missing critical files / so far haven't had glitches / bugs of notice...
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#5583651 Posted on: 09/12/2018 07:34 AM
Yeah... just finished the reading from the msfn thread.. you're right
https://msfn.org/board/topic/152688-win6x-registry-tweak/
.cmd beside the wim tweak tool / launch it and let it fly...
You got me curious though - what exactly does it pull that should stay ? Why a need for it to cause instability if removed ... what were those necessary libraries you mentioned? My 10 install doesn't have Edge, now I'm wondering if maybe I'm missing critical files / so far haven't had glitches / bugs of notice...
I think that some of libraries are used by some other components. And then some updates may fail. Thing is, one never knows what MS hybridizes there.
Yeah... just finished the reading from the msfn thread.. you're right
https://msfn.org/board/topic/152688-win6x-registry-tweak/
.cmd beside the wim tweak tool / launch it and let it fly...
You got me curious though - what exactly does it pull that should stay ? Why a need for it to cause instability if removed ... what were those necessary libraries you mentioned? My 10 install doesn't have Edge, now I'm wondering if maybe I'm missing critical files / so far haven't had glitches / bugs of notice...
I think that some of libraries are used by some other components. And then some updates may fail. Thing is, one never knows what MS hybridizes there.
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#5583667 Posted on: 09/12/2018 08:32 AM
With Steam pushing Linux.
With graphics drivers who made a big leap forward last year (at least for AMD ; mesa) see Phoronix (guru3D will one day have to think about benchmarking on Linux
).
With the multiplication of rolling release distributions, some very serious with a company behind (example OpenSuse Tumbleweed, and I guess Ubuntu will do it someday)
My installation of Windows 7 is broken, I can not use Windows Update, the only solution advocated by Microsoft is to reinstall Windows 7 or upgrade to Windows 10. I have to make security updates manually. I had to patch my motherboard bios myself for Meltdown and Spectre because my processor is too old (2500K) and Microsoft did not want to propose a microcode update for these processors.
In any case, I will not use Windows 10, for sure, even if I have to wait until the last moment. I'm really tired of Microsoft and I used Windows 98, so I was already tired before.
I use Linux for 20 years on servers and every year I wanted to switch for my personal computer, I seriously think that by 2020, it will really be possible. Thanks mainly to Valve for that.
(sorry for my english)
With Steam pushing Linux.
With graphics drivers who made a big leap forward last year (at least for AMD ; mesa) see Phoronix (guru3D will one day have to think about benchmarking on Linux
).With the multiplication of rolling release distributions, some very serious with a company behind (example OpenSuse Tumbleweed, and I guess Ubuntu will do it someday)
My installation of Windows 7 is broken, I can not use Windows Update, the only solution advocated by Microsoft is to reinstall Windows 7 or upgrade to Windows 10. I have to make security updates manually. I had to patch my motherboard bios myself for Meltdown and Spectre because my processor is too old (2500K) and Microsoft did not want to propose a microcode update for these processors.
In any case, I will not use Windows 10, for sure, even if I have to wait until the last moment. I'm really tired of Microsoft and I used Windows 98, so I was already tired before.
I use Linux for 20 years on servers and every year I wanted to switch for my personal computer, I seriously think that by 2020, it will really be possible. Thanks mainly to Valve for that.
(sorry for my english)
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#5583675 Posted on: 09/12/2018 09:10 AM
With Steam pushing Linux.
With graphics drivers who made a big leap forward last year (at least for AMD ; mesa) see Phoronix (guru3D will one day have to think about benchmarking on Linux).
With the multiplication of rolling release distributions, some very serious with a company behind (example OpenSuse Tumbleweed, and I guess Ubuntu will do it someday)
My installation of Windows 7 is broken, I can not use Windows Update, the only solution advocated by Microsoft is to reinstall Windows 7 or upgrade to Windows 10. I have to make security updates manually. I had to patch my motherboard bios myself for Meltdown and Spectre because my processor is too old (2500K) and Microsoft did not want to propose a microcode update for these processors.
In any case, I will not use Windows 10, for sure, even if I have to wait until the last moment. I'm really tired of Microsoft and I used Windows 98, so I was already tired before.
I use Linux for 20 years on servers and every year I wanted to switch for my personal computer, I seriously think that by 2020, it will really be possible. Thanks mainly to Valve for that.
(sorry for my english)
Have you tried manually updating the Windows Update Agent? once the update agent gets "updated", Windows Update should start functioning again.
With Steam pushing Linux.
With graphics drivers who made a big leap forward last year (at least for AMD ; mesa) see Phoronix (guru3D will one day have to think about benchmarking on Linux
).With the multiplication of rolling release distributions, some very serious with a company behind (example OpenSuse Tumbleweed, and I guess Ubuntu will do it someday)
My installation of Windows 7 is broken, I can not use Windows Update, the only solution advocated by Microsoft is to reinstall Windows 7 or upgrade to Windows 10. I have to make security updates manually. I had to patch my motherboard bios myself for Meltdown and Spectre because my processor is too old (2500K) and Microsoft did not want to propose a microcode update for these processors.
In any case, I will not use Windows 10, for sure, even if I have to wait until the last moment. I'm really tired of Microsoft and I used Windows 98, so I was already tired before.
I use Linux for 20 years on servers and every year I wanted to switch for my personal computer, I seriously think that by 2020, it will really be possible. Thanks mainly to Valve for that.
(sorry for my english)
Have you tried manually updating the Windows Update Agent? once the update agent gets "updated", Windows Update should start functioning again.
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#5583702 Posted on: 09/12/2018 10:48 AM
It's 2018 and there's still people like you posting this nonsense lol that's amazing
You either have never actually used windows 10, or think it's windows 8.
And i'm sure you'll reply back with "Ofcourse i have used windows 10! i have it installed on such and such computer or etc.! And it's built for tablets and laptops!"
But my response will stand, because either you're completely blinded by your bias to think windows 10 isn't desktop oriented just like windows 7, and unlikely windows 8, or you have simply never used it.
Read my whole post. Been using Win10 for 2 years now on job PC. Its the worst OS I had to deal with.
I use both Win7 and Win10 daily. Again, Win10 is just a crap OS designed for tablets.
If Win10 is the only OS you used and got numb to its crapware and horrible optimization, I am very sorry for you.
It's 2018 and there's still people like you posting this nonsense lol that's amazing
You either have never actually used windows 10, or think it's windows 8.
And i'm sure you'll reply back with "Ofcourse i have used windows 10! i have it installed on such and such computer or etc.! And it's built for tablets and laptops!"
But my response will stand, because either you're completely blinded by your bias to think windows 10 isn't desktop oriented just like windows 7, and unlikely windows 8, or you have simply never used it.
Read my whole post. Been using Win10 for 2 years now on job PC. Its the worst OS I had to deal with.
I use both Win7 and Win10 daily. Again, Win10 is just a crap OS designed for tablets.
If Win10 is the only OS you used and got numb to its crapware and horrible optimization, I am very sorry for you.
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It's 2018 and there's still people like you posting this nonsense lol that's amazing
You either have never actually used windows 10, or think it's windows 8.
And i'm sure you'll reply back with "Ofcourse i have used windows 10! i have it installed on such and such computer or etc.! And it's built for tablets and laptops!"
But my response will stand, because either you're completely blinded by your bias to think windows 10 isn't desktop oriented just like windows 7, and unlikely windows 8, or you have simply never used it.