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It seems Microsoft might be ditching Edge, Microsoft is working on a new browser, based on Chromium. Microsoft is working internally to convert the main browser in Windows 10 to the Chromium engine, which is used among others in Google's Chrome browser, but also in Opera and Vivaldi.
Windows Central learned this from Microsoft. There are not many details yet. For example, it is not known whether the future default browser in Windows 10 will be called Edge or will be renamed as the rendering engine changes.
It is expected that the new Microsoft browser will be released in the first half of 2019 - probably with a corresponding Windows 10 update. The edge browser has never enjoyed great popularity. At first, the browser was notable for its lack of features, which should be a matter of course for modern browsers. But sometimes it takes several months for standard functions to be integrated into the browser. First and foremost, edge users complain about a lack of stability and low browser speed.
So far, Microsoft has not officially confirmed the move to Chromium. It is expected that Microsoft will officially announce the plan in the coming weeks.
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#5613465 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:07 PM
(incoming snark)
if this is so then why in hell is MS pimping Edge in Win10's network and internet settings?
seriously tho' this may be good, but i'm more happy about what isn't being said - ending the practice of ISP bribery (in the US) where ISP's and web developers have been optimizing service for Edge vs Chrome. i see it every freaking day...just open up MSNBC or CNBC (or Hulu) on Edge vs Chrome.
and i still don't like Edge even when it's been optimized.
(incoming snark)
if this is so then why in hell is MS pimping Edge in Win10's network and internet settings?
seriously tho' this may be good, but i'm more happy about what isn't being said - ending the practice of ISP bribery (in the US) where ISP's and web developers have been optimizing service for Edge vs Chrome. i see it every freaking day...just open up MSNBC or CNBC (or Hulu) on Edge vs Chrome.
and i still don't like Edge even when it's been optimized.
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#5613466 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:10 PM
Edge was the best browser for downloading other browsers.
Edge was the best browser for downloading other browsers.
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#5613472 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:14 PM
:p:p:p:p
Edge was the best browser for downloading other browsers.
:p:p:p:p
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#5613475 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:17 PM
Chromium-based browsers can suck it. Chrome is only "popular" because, like Edge and IE before it, it was installed without the users' input. Google spent YEARS stealthing this thing onto PCs. Most people I know with Chrome have no idea how it got on there. And to make matters worse, a formerly great browser called Firefox has been ruined because they now have to mimic Chrome in order to "stay relevant".
Chromium-based browsers can suck it. Chrome is only "popular" because, like Edge and IE before it, it was installed without the users' input. Google spent YEARS stealthing this thing onto PCs. Most people I know with Chrome have no idea how it got on there. And to make matters worse, a formerly great browser called Firefox has been ruined because they now have to mimic Chrome in order to "stay relevant".
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#5613479 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:25 PM
See, it's stuff like this why you can't take any of MS's claims seriously. They sure put a lot of bold claims out there bragging how good they thought Edge was (even though I found it to be incredibly unstable and cumbersome to use) and they're already giving up?
Although I agree it's a shame FF is forced to copy Chrome, you make the browser out to be like some terrible piece of software, and it objectively isn't. Whether or not it is better or worse than FF is conditional or subjective. I overall prefer FF but it's got management and priority issues, which in turn make it technologically inferior at times.
It is worth pointing out that Chromium is better than Chrome.
See, it's stuff like this why you can't take any of MS's claims seriously. They sure put a lot of bold claims out there bragging how good they thought Edge was (even though I found it to be incredibly unstable and cumbersome to use) and they're already giving up?
Chromium-based browsers can suck it. Chrome is only "popular" because, like Edge and IE before it, it was installed without the users' input. Google spent YEARS stealthing this thing onto PCs. Most people I know with Chrome have no idea how it got on there. And to make matters worse, a formerly great browser called Firefox has been ruined because they now have to mimic Chrome in order to "stay relevant".
Although I agree it's a shame FF is forced to copy Chrome, you make the browser out to be like some terrible piece of software, and it objectively isn't. Whether or not it is better or worse than FF is conditional or subjective. I overall prefer FF but it's got management and priority issues, which in turn make it technologically inferior at times.
It is worth pointing out that Chromium is better than Chrome.
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#5613486 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:43 PM
I hope it doesn't affect the video playback support. Afaik Edge is still the only browser on Windows to support Netflix 4k, and IE 1080p, whereas the others are limited to 720p. Edge has also been faster on my older PCs since Chrome started forcing VP9 on youtube.
I hope it doesn't affect the video playback support. Afaik Edge is still the only browser on Windows to support Netflix 4k, and IE 1080p, whereas the others are limited to 720p. Edge has also been faster on my older PCs since Chrome started forcing VP9 on youtube.
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#5613488 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:48 PM
I can't believe this ...
Most people I know with Chrome have no idea how it got on there.
I can't believe this ...
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#5613489 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:51 PM
that is up to the vendors side-deals with Microsoft, not anything inherent with the browsers.
I hope it doesn't affect the video playback support. Afaik Edge is still the only browser on Windows to support Netflix 4k, and IE 1080p, whereas the others are limited to 720p. Edge has also been faster on my older PCs since Chrome started forcing VP9 on youtube.
that is up to the vendors side-deals with Microsoft, not anything inherent with the browsers.
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#5613490 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:52 PM
Since speed of a browser is what the average user cares about, unless Google can develop a rendering engine similar in efficiency to Webrender in Firefox they might have to take a note from Mozilla.
Since speed of a browser is what the average user cares about, unless Google can develop a rendering engine similar in efficiency to Webrender in Firefox they might have to take a note from Mozilla.
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#5613493 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:57 PM
No thanks, Chrome is such an unmitigated POS and has sleazed it's way on to millions of PCs by way of other software's installers.
Fu*king Chrome should show up in a big wooden horse.
MS needs to hire some people who have some faith in (and ability to resurrect) their own brand as opposed to acquiescing to Google the way that sellout Belfior did with the Windows Phone.
Why is a self confessed Android user in charge of Microsoft's Mobile department?
Well, we'll always have Firefox I guess.
No thanks, Chrome is such an unmitigated POS and has sleazed it's way on to millions of PCs by way of other software's installers.
Fu*king Chrome should show up in a big wooden horse.
MS needs to hire some people who have some faith in (and ability to resurrect) their own brand as opposed to acquiescing to Google the way that sellout Belfior did with the Windows Phone.
Why is a self confessed Android user in charge of Microsoft's Mobile department?
Well, we'll always have Firefox I guess.
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#5613494 Posted on: 12/04/2018 04:58 PM
At first I couldn't either, but when you really think about it, most people who run installers just click "next" without reading anything, and I've found Chrome ends up as a checkbox pretty often.
I can't believe this ...
At first I couldn't either, but when you really think about it, most people who run installers just click "next" without reading anything, and I've found Chrome ends up as a checkbox pretty often.
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#5613502 Posted on: 12/04/2018 05:09 PM
Yeah it's bundled in a lot of adware supported packages, better than some weird-invasive anti-virus "solution" at least or some quirky toolbar but some of these "offers" can be really hard to opt out of.
(Yes = install, no = install and then quit = installs software without bundle or a little red X mark or something.)
Yeah it's bundled in a lot of adware supported packages, better than some weird-invasive anti-virus "solution" at least or some quirky toolbar but some of these "offers" can be really hard to opt out of.
(Yes = install, no = install and then quit = installs software without bundle or a little red X mark or something.)
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#5613503 Posted on: 12/04/2018 05:10 PM
I've not once experienced that. Maybe not installing a bunch of shady software prevents that from happening.
Chromium-based browsers can suck it. Chrome is only "popular" because, like Edge and IE before it, it was installed without the users' input. Google spent YEARS stealthing this thing onto PCs. Most people I know with Chrome have no idea how it got on there. And to make matters worse, a formerly great browser called Firefox has been ruined because they now have to mimic Chrome in order to "stay relevant".
I've not once experienced that. Maybe not installing a bunch of shady software prevents that from happening.
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#5613508 Posted on: 12/04/2018 05:21 PM
No one is mentioning Opera ! ? I am using it for year now ( maybe 10 - 12 ) ... and it works for me ! Sometimes it has problems with Flash Player but that is about it . I just can't get myself to use Chrome. Was using Firefox in my younger age but for me opera runs good
No one is mentioning Opera ! ? I am using it for year now ( maybe 10 - 12 ) ... and it works for me ! Sometimes it has problems with Flash Player but that is about it . I just can't get myself to use Chrome. Was using Firefox in my younger age but for me opera runs good
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