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Majority of people send full diagnostic data back to Microsoft
Pretty much the bigger part of Windows 10 computers with the Creators Update installed sends full diagnostics data to Microsoft, according to a blog on the Microsoft website. Under pressure of several privacy watchdogs Microsoft decided to add new privacy setting screen to the installation process.
Users now have to confirm several privacy settings during the installation, this includes the diagnostic data that Windows 10 collects and sends to Microsoft reports myce today:
Previous Windows 10 versions used 3 different levels, which has been brought back to 2 levels with the Creators Update. These two are ‘Full’ and ‘Basic’. Microsoft has stated to use the collected diagnostic data to resolve issues and to improve its products.
When the ‘Basic’ level is set, Windows 10 will send device, connectivity and configuration data to Microsoft, and also limited error reports. When the full level is selected, the basic data is sent and also additional information about the device, connectivity and configuration, but also app and browser usage, fragments of hand typed text and more extensive error reports.
During the installation of the Creators Update users have to confirm which level they want to use on the privacy setting screen. The installation uses the previously chosen privacy settings but allows the user to change them.
Microsoft today announced that 71% of all Windows 10 computers with the Creators Update sends full diagnostic data to the company.
It’s not unlikely that this number is so high because the full level is enabled by default in case users never changed the privacy settings after the initial installation of Windows 10.
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#5460628 Posted on: 08/08/2017 03:51 PM
Shut up 10 and im good.
Shut up 10 and im good.
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#5460635 Posted on: 08/08/2017 04:01 PM
The notion that Microsoft is gathering keystrokes, voice communication, etc. is insane but even if we assume that is the case (hypothetically), I keep getting the impression that when Microsoft does this it's evil, disgusting, immoral, outrageous, etc. However, if any other company does it (Apple, Google, e-mail providers, social websites, etc.), then it's fine, no problem there.
Double standard much?
It´s bad regardless of who´s doing. But the double standards do exist i think it´s because of the business model of companies like Google and Facebook, that are free in exchange of our data, and because having an OS spying on us is more intrusive than an app or a search engine.
The notion that Microsoft is gathering keystrokes, voice communication, etc. is insane but even if we assume that is the case (hypothetically), I keep getting the impression that when Microsoft does this it's evil, disgusting, immoral, outrageous, etc. However, if any other company does it (Apple, Google, e-mail providers, social websites, etc.), then it's fine, no problem there.
Double standard much?
It´s bad regardless of who´s doing. But the double standards do exist i think it´s because of the business model of companies like Google and Facebook, that are free in exchange of our data, and because having an OS spying on us is more intrusive than an app or a search engine.
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#5460651 Posted on: 08/08/2017 04:21 PM
Same here. I don't like MS and I find Windows very flawed, but sending data to MS is not one of the things I dislike about them.
I clicked just to read the comments sections from the tin-foil hat brigade. I wasn't disappointed.
Same here. I don't like MS and I find Windows very flawed, but sending data to MS is not one of the things I dislike about them.
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#5460673 Posted on: 08/08/2017 05:00 PM
I honestly don't give a damn anymore.
In between Google, Steam, Facebook and gazillion apps, services and sites gathering my info, having one another gather it simply does not matter.
Other than that, honestly, what I even have to hide? What kind of porn I like? Because that's about the biggest, baddest secret I have there.
I never even opted out of any Windows 10 privacy stuff, because 0 ****s given and I do think they are unfairly singled out, because when you see the likes of Google who bloody scan your emails and everything you type ever in Chrome to push ads on you (and who knows what other purpose), MS is pretty tame.
I honestly don't give a damn anymore.
In between Google, Steam, Facebook and gazillion apps, services and sites gathering my info, having one another gather it simply does not matter.
Other than that, honestly, what I even have to hide? What kind of porn I like? Because that's about the biggest, baddest secret I have there.
I never even opted out of any Windows 10 privacy stuff, because 0 ****s given and I do think they are unfairly singled out, because when you see the likes of Google who bloody scan your emails and everything you type ever in Chrome to push ads on you (and who knows what other purpose), MS is pretty tame.
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The notion that Microsoft is gathering keystrokes, voice communication, etc. is insane but even if we assume that is the case (hypothetically), I keep getting the impression that when Microsoft does this it's evil, disgusting, immoral, outrageous, etc. However, if any other company does it (Apple, Google, e-mail providers, social websites, etc.), then it's fine, no problem there.
Double standard much?
I just want to point out that they literally tell you they are gathering this information. It's only when you type into one of their online connected apps like Cortana/Onenote/Word 365 where the only way for them to provide the "intelligent insights" or w/e they call it happens - but they do collect all of it. But you're right that it's no different than google keyboard or any of the other intelligence services that need that data in order to do word correction off the device and whatnot.