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Logitech Introduces ERGO K860: More Natural Typing Experience
Logitech announced the Logitech ERGO K860 Ergonomic Split Keyboard, an advaced ergonomic split keyboard that delivers a more natural typing experience. Offering greater wrist support and reduced muscle activity, the ERGO K860 promotes a more relaxed typing posture.
Introducing ERGO K860, a science-driven ergonomic split keyboard for a more natural typing posture, so you can work comfortably without compromising productivity.
The curved wrist rest with pillowed cushioning places your forearms just above the keyboard, offering 54% more wrist support and reducing wrist bending by 25%. The adjustable palm lift feature keeps your wrists in a natural posture, whether you’re seated or standing. ERGO K860 is certified by United States Ergonomics and has been tested and rated for a 10 million keystroke lifespan.
Type with confidence on a curved keyframe using Logitech’s Perfect Stroke key system, designed for comfort, precision and fluidity. User-friendly online onboarding, including ergonomic workstation tips, makes setting up ERGO K860 a snap on Mac or PC platforms. Choose to connect via Bluetooth® Low Energy or the USB dongle.
The ERGO K860 follows your Logitech Flow™-enabled mouse, such as the Logitech MX VERTICAL Advanced Ergonomic Mouse, from one computer to another, so you can type on multiple devices in one fluid workflow when using Logitech Options software. Controlling multiple computers from one keyboard and mouse can improve your ergonomic setup by preventing strain caused by unnecessary physical movements.
Pricing and Availability
Logitech ERGO K860 will be available in January 2020. The suggested retail price for ERGO K860 is $129.99.
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#5751280 Posted on: 01/16/2020 09:53 AM
The suggested retail price for ERGO K860 is $129.99.
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#5751304 Posted on: 01/16/2020 11:34 AM
Hmmm... back to early 90's i see.
In these time M$ and logitech had already this design... with same arguments... it end with a fail (lot of people were having pain in hands).
In the same "better for your ergo" way there is the Bépo layout for Azerty user and the new Azerty+ layout in a less painfull way, the vertical mouse and the 3d mouse (not the pro 3d mouse that are perfect).
But all of these were bringing something new... but not this one.
Hmmm... back to early 90's i see.
In these time M$ and logitech had already this design... with same arguments... it end with a fail (lot of people were having pain in hands).
In the same "better for your ergo" way there is the Bépo layout for Azerty user and the new Azerty+ layout in a less painfull way, the vertical mouse and the 3d mouse (not the pro 3d mouse that are perfect).
But all of these were bringing something new... but not this one.
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#5751313 Posted on: 01/16/2020 12:31 PM
It didn't fail, the concept is not complex - if you spend too long doing some action near the limit of some joint you get RSI. Standard keyboards are bad as you have to bend both wrists outward to their limit and you get RSI on the outside of the wrists. The split with the keys being angled out does a lot to prevent it. The other problem area is if the wrist is resting below the keyboard or mouse then they get angled upward near the limit of movement and you get RSI along the top (classic carpal tunnel), hence you get something to rest your wrist on to keep it flat.
Anyway nothing new or original about this keyboard but it looks like it has all the right ideas going on.
It didn't fail, the concept is not complex - if you spend too long doing some action near the limit of some joint you get RSI. Standard keyboards are bad as you have to bend both wrists outward to their limit and you get RSI on the outside of the wrists. The split with the keys being angled out does a lot to prevent it. The other problem area is if the wrist is resting below the keyboard or mouse then they get angled upward near the limit of movement and you get RSI along the top (classic carpal tunnel), hence you get something to rest your wrist on to keep it flat.
Anyway nothing new or original about this keyboard but it looks like it has all the right ideas going on.
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#5751319 Posted on: 01/16/2020 12:56 PM
i totally like this keyboard, it's really well think to be useful for long writing sessions. I who have tendonitis, I think it will relieve my tendons by keeping the wrist in the flattest position possible.
i totally like this keyboard, it's really well think to be useful for long writing sessions. I who have tendonitis, I think it will relieve my tendons by keeping the wrist in the flattest position possible.
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#5751385 Posted on: 01/16/2020 04:57 PM
I still have a Wave from Logitech, doing great after a decade of writing/gaming. This keyboard seems to be its successor. However, it's not really comparable with mechanical switches, they just work better, and with a nice palmrest, it will be great for typing as well, not just gaming. My main is now a Apex M750 from Steelseries, it's been quite hard to get used to typing on it because of the very sensitive switches, but after a few months I got used to it. Quite hard to go back to membrane from this.
The Wave:
I still have a Wave from Logitech, doing great after a decade of writing/gaming. This keyboard seems to be its successor. However, it's not really comparable with mechanical switches, they just work better, and with a nice palmrest, it will be great for typing as well, not just gaming. My main is now a Apex M750 from Steelseries, it's been quite hard to get used to typing on it because of the very sensitive switches, but after a few months I got used to it. Quite hard to go back to membrane from this.
The Wave:
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#5751485 Posted on: 01/16/2020 10:19 PM
Just another standard keyboard with rows that are offset so that you have to twist your fingers to type. Not ergonomic at all.
Get a typematrix instead.
Just another standard keyboard with rows that are offset so that you have to twist your fingers to type. Not ergonomic at all.
Get a typematrix instead.
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#5751491 Posted on: 01/16/2020 10:37 PM
I still have a Wave from Logitech, doing great after a decade of writing/gaming. This keyboard seems to be its successor. However, it's not really comparable with mechanical switches, they just work better, and with a nice palmrest, it will be great for typing as well, not just gaming. My main is now a Apex M750 from Steelseries, it's been quite hard to get used to typing on it because of the very sensitive switches, but after a few months I got used to it. Quite hard to go back to membrane from this.
The Wave:
I miss that, well I still have it and still works great but the mouse MX1100 is long dead which still to this day my favorite mouse
I still have a Wave from Logitech, doing great after a decade of writing/gaming. This keyboard seems to be its successor. However, it's not really comparable with mechanical switches, they just work better, and with a nice palmrest, it will be great for typing as well, not just gaming. My main is now a Apex M750 from Steelseries, it's been quite hard to get used to typing on it because of the very sensitive switches, but after a few months I got used to it. Quite hard to go back to membrane from this.
The Wave:
I miss that, well I still have it and still works great but the mouse MX1100 is long dead which still to this day my favorite mouse
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#5751507 Posted on: 01/16/2020 11:12 PM
I still have mine and it still works (not perfectly though). My MX1100 had some slight wireless connection issues, very rare, but Logitech support insisted they change it. Instead, they sent me a new Performance MX which you can see in the image as well, very pleasant surprise for sure. I've used both so much they developed holes in the rubber sides. The PMX also started to get oxidized on the metal ornaments heh. Switched to Steelseries with a Rival 600 and Apex M750 combo and they're great, but I'm also keeping the Logitech stuff since it served me so well. The PMX mouse (and the Wave keyboard) still work flawlessly to this day, but they're a bit gross from the surface wear. And no, it cannot be cleaned, tried water, alcohol wipes, nothing works, the rubber is just coming off.
I miss that, well I still have it and still works great but the mouse MX1100 is long dead which still to this day my favorite mouse
I still have mine and it still works (not perfectly though). My MX1100 had some slight wireless connection issues, very rare, but Logitech support insisted they change it. Instead, they sent me a new Performance MX which you can see in the image as well, very pleasant surprise for sure. I've used both so much they developed holes in the rubber sides. The PMX also started to get oxidized on the metal ornaments heh. Switched to Steelseries with a Rival 600 and Apex M750 combo and they're great, but I'm also keeping the Logitech stuff since it served me so well. The PMX mouse (and the Wave keyboard) still work flawlessly to this day, but they're a bit gross from the surface wear. And no, it cannot be cleaned, tried water, alcohol wipes, nothing works, the rubber is just coming off.
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#5751558 Posted on: 01/17/2020 04:26 AM
I had one of those. Was the last Logitech keyboard I bought. It cost ~$79 and the keys were sticky and the font wore off the main used keys in like a month.
Now I have a few noname $35 mechanical keyboards that have double shot, backlit keycaps and have lasted 3 years so far like new...they are vastly superior for 1/3 the price.
I still have a Wave from Logitech, doing great after a decade of writing/gaming.
I had one of those. Was the last Logitech keyboard I bought. It cost ~$79 and the keys were sticky and the font wore off the main used keys in like a month.
Now I have a few noname $35 mechanical keyboards that have double shot, backlit keycaps and have lasted 3 years so far like new...they are vastly superior for 1/3 the price.
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#5751564 Posted on: 01/17/2020 05:08 AM
like I said i miss the mouse it came with I loved it so much I attempted to replaced the switches on it cause they were gone. That failed horrible and I broke other things in in process , after that I got the logitech g502 protues core, The bottom button on the side on the mx1100 is BEST placment for thumb button, I have no clue what logitech was smoking when they moved to where it was on the g502
I still have mine and it still works (not perfectly though). My MX1100 had some slight wireless connection issues, very rare, but Logitech support insisted they change it. Instead, they sent me a new Performance MX which you can see in the image as well, very pleasant surprise for sure. I've used both so much they developed holes in the rubber sides. The PMX also started to get oxidized on the metal ornaments heh. Switched to Steelseries with a Rival 600 and Apex M750 combo and they're great, but I'm also keeping the Logitech stuff since it served me so well. The PMX mouse (and the Wave keyboard) still work flawlessly to this day, but they're a bit gross from the surface wear. And no, it cannot be cleaned, tried water, alcohol wipes, nothing works, the rubber is just coming off.
like I said i miss the mouse it came with I loved it so much I attempted to replaced the switches on it cause they were gone. That failed horrible and I broke other things in in process , after that I got the logitech g502 protues core, The bottom button on the side on the mx1100 is BEST placment for thumb button, I have no clue what logitech was smoking when they moved to where it was on the g502
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#5751570 Posted on: 01/17/2020 05:41 AM
Ain't anything natural about that weirdass keyboard. No backlighting, keys are all over the place...
Ain't anything natural about that weirdass keyboard. No backlighting, keys are all over the place...
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