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A long list of mobile processors has surfaced online, the list entails Coffee Lake-H and Coffee Lake-S processors intended for laptops. Intel is to offer a tweakable Core i9 laptop processor with six cores. A new Core i5-8650K desktop SKU is also listed.
The listing was published over at Anandtech, who spotted it at release update nite from AIDA. The Core i3 series will become quad-0cores, the i5 series hexa-cores and the i7 series hex-cores with hyper-threading (SMT). The HK denominator on the Core i9 processor is indicative of an unlocked processor. These processors get a 45 Watt TDP.
On the list Coffee Lake-S are also present, bringing the total number of procs (desktop and laptop) towards 46. On the desktop side, worthy a spot is the Core i5-8650K. A new tweakable (unlocked) proc. Have a peek at the listing, courtesy of Anandtech.
| Intel 8th Generation Mobile Processors Coffee Lake-H |
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| Specifications are not confirmed |
Cores | Base Freq |
Turbo Freq |
L3 | Nominal TDP (PL1) |
| Core i9-8950HK | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | 45 W |
| Core i7-8850H | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | 45 W |
| Core i7-8750H | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | 45 W |
| Core i5-8400H | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 45 W |
| Core i3-8300H | 4 / 4 | ? | ? | 8 MB | 45 W |
| Intel 8th Generation Desktop Processors Coffee Lake-S |
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| Specifications not confirmed except * |
Cores | Base Freq |
Turbo Freq |
L3 | TDP | List Price |
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| Core i7 | |||||||
| Core i7-8700K | * | 6 / 12 | 3.7 | 4.7 | 12 MB | 95 W | $359 |
| Core i7-8700 | * | 6 / 12 | 3.2 | 4.6 | 12 MB | 65 W | $303 |
| Core i7-8700B | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | ? | $303 | |
| Core i7-8700T | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | 35 W | $303 | |
| Core i7-8670 | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | 65 W | ? | |
| Core i7-8670T | 6 / 12 | ? | ? | 12 MB | 35 W | ? | |
| Core i5 | |||||||
| Core i5-8650K | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | ? | ? | |
| Core i5-8650 | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 65 W | ? | |
| Core i5-8600K | * | 6 / 6 | 3.6 | 4.3 | 9 MB | 95 W | $257 |
| Core i5-8550 | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 65 W | ? | |
| Core i5-8500 | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 65 W | ? | |
| Core i5-8500B | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | ? | ? | |
| Core i5-8500T | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 35 W | ? | |
| Core i5-8420 | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 65 W | ? | |
| Core i5-8420T | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 35 W | ? | |
| Core i5-8400 | * | 6 / 6 | 2.8 | 4.0 | 9 MB | 65 W | $182 |
| Core i5-8400B | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | ? | $182 | |
| Core i5-8400T | 6 / 6 | ? | ? | 9 MB | 35 W | $182 | |
| Core i3 | |||||||
| Core i3-8350K | * | 4 / 4 | 4.0 | 8 MB | 91 W | $168 | |
| Core i3-8320 | 4 / 4 | ? | 8 MB | 65 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8320T | 4 / 4 | ? | 8 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8300T | 4 / 4 | ? | 8 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8120 | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 65 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8120T | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8100 | * | 4 / 4 | 3.6 | 6 MB | 65 W | $117 | |
| Core i3-8100T | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 35 W | $117 | ||
| Core i3-8020 | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 65 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8020T | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8000 | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 65 W | ? | ||
| Core i3-8000T | 4 / 4 | ? | 6 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold | |||||||
| Pentium Gold G5620 | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5620T | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5600 | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5500 | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5500T | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5420 | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5420T | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5400 | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Pentium Gold G5400T | 2 / 4 | ? | 3 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Celeron | |||||||
| Celeron G4950 | 2 / 2 | ? | 2 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Celeron G4930 | 2 / 2 | ? | 2 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Celeron G4930T | 2 / 2 | ? | 2 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
| Celeron G4920 | 2 / 2 | ? | 2 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Celeron G4900 | 2 / 2 | ? | 2 MB | ? | ? | ||
| Celeron G4900T | 2 / 2 | ? | 2 MB | 35 W | ? | ||
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#5495698 Posted on: 11/26/2017 09:06 PM
Strange how there are no 4c/8t models. When it comes to x86-based laptops, I'd much rather have a 4c/8t over a 6c/6t. If this were ARM, I'd gladly take the extra cores, since ARM is a more efficient with idle cores.
I know I won't be getting any of these CL laptops if the CPUs are all going to be 45W.
Intel has been doing stuff like this for years. Dual core i7s with HT were pretty common. It boggled my mind why anyone bothered to buy one of those over an i5.
Strange how there are no 4c/8t models. When it comes to x86-based laptops, I'd much rather have a 4c/8t over a 6c/6t. If this were ARM, I'd gladly take the extra cores, since ARM is a more efficient with idle cores.
I know I won't be getting any of these CL laptops if the CPUs are all going to be 45W.
I don't like the use of the i9 moniker for only a 6 core hyper threaded CPU, it's a 'con' to use that moniker. Could do with being some consistency in terms of core count at least between desktop & mobile when it comes to i5/i7/i9 etc - I can deal with the core frequencies being different (lower) on the mobile CPUs but I think core count should retain some equality in terms of the series numbering between desktop & mobile.
Intel has been doing stuff like this for years. Dual core i7s with HT were pretty common. It boggled my mind why anyone bothered to buy one of those over an i5.
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#5495731 Posted on: 11/27/2017 12:09 AM
Strange how there are no 4c/8t models. When it comes to x86-based laptops, I'd much rather have a 4c/8t over a 6c/6t. If this were ARM, I'd gladly take the extra cores, since ARM is a more efficient with idle cores.
I know I won't be getting any of these CL laptops if the CPUs are all going to be 45W.
Intel has been doing stuff like this for years. Dual core i7s with HT were pretty common. It boggled my mind why anyone bothered to buy one of those over an i5.
Just like when people bought i5 6XX which were dual cores with HT on 1156.
I had a buddy that didnt know much about computers. One of his idiot friends told him to buy an i7 laptop which had a dual core with HT. He said it would be better then an i5 because its an i7. I made him take it back the next day and get the i5 they had that actually was $85 less and actually had a better dedicated gpu. Personally, Intel has always been shady with that crap.
Strange how there are no 4c/8t models. When it comes to x86-based laptops, I'd much rather have a 4c/8t over a 6c/6t. If this were ARM, I'd gladly take the extra cores, since ARM is a more efficient with idle cores.
I know I won't be getting any of these CL laptops if the CPUs are all going to be 45W.
Intel has been doing stuff like this for years. Dual core i7s with HT were pretty common. It boggled my mind why anyone bothered to buy one of those over an i5.
Just like when people bought i5 6XX which were dual cores with HT on 1156.
I had a buddy that didnt know much about computers. One of his idiot friends told him to buy an i7 laptop which had a dual core with HT. He said it would be better then an i5 because its an i7. I made him take it back the next day and get the i5 they had that actually was $85 less and actually had a better dedicated gpu. Personally, Intel has always been shady with that crap.
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#5495735 Posted on: 11/27/2017 12:24 AM
Very true, though to my recollection there were no i7s when that series came out, so it didn't look like such a stupid product at the time.
Well, your buddy is a solid example of why Intel's marketing works. They're going to continue pulling this crap until they're put under the spotlight. Sadly, I've even seen IT professionals shoot for these i7 dual cores.
Personally, I'm fine with my i3-based laptop. Sure, there's no turbo speeds, but ever since Turbo Boost 3.0, turbo speeds are unappealing to me anyway. I'd rather have consistent and good battery life and lower fan speeds. Still has 2c/4t, but costs much less for a negligible performance loss in everyday tasks.
Just like when people bought i5 6XX which were dual cores with HT on 1156.
Very true, though to my recollection there were no i7s when that series came out, so it didn't look like such a stupid product at the time.
I had a buddy that didnt know much about computers. One of his idiot friends told him to buy an i7 laptop which had a dual core with HT. He said it would be better then an i5 because its an i7. I made him take it back the next day and get the i5 they had that actually was $85 less and actually had a better dedicated gpu. Personally, Intel has always been shady with that crap.
Well, your buddy is a solid example of why Intel's marketing works. They're going to continue pulling this crap until they're put under the spotlight. Sadly, I've even seen IT professionals shoot for these i7 dual cores.
Personally, I'm fine with my i3-based laptop. Sure, there's no turbo speeds, but ever since Turbo Boost 3.0, turbo speeds are unappealing to me anyway. I'd rather have consistent and good battery life and lower fan speeds. Still has 2c/4t, but costs much less for a negligible performance loss in everyday tasks.
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#5495749 Posted on: 11/27/2017 01:47 AM
I actually didn't see much laptop performance being capped by slow CPU.
My top 3 reasons for slow laptop:
1) Low amount of RAM causes swapping, which causes massive lags when opening or switching between apps.
-> Add RAM (at least 4GB)
2) HDD. Laptop HDD's are really slow. Takes a while to load OS or apps.
-> Switch to SSD, also helps with swapping
3) Overheating. No matter how fast CPU is, once overheated it won't perform at all. i5 CPUs might actually perform better then i7 since they produce less heat and have lower chance to be affected by throttling.
-> Get CPU with less TDP and even lower clock speed if heat becomes an issue.
4 and 5 would be software issue and lack of GPU performance, still not CPU issue.
edit:
From article, even if still not confirmed I don't think it's possible to have 45W across all CPUs (from i3 to i9). Unless we double cut CPU clock once we add 2 times more cores.
I actually didn't see much laptop performance being capped by slow CPU.
My top 3 reasons for slow laptop:
1) Low amount of RAM causes swapping, which causes massive lags when opening or switching between apps.
-> Add RAM (at least 4GB)
2) HDD. Laptop HDD's are really slow. Takes a while to load OS or apps.
-> Switch to SSD, also helps with swapping
3) Overheating. No matter how fast CPU is, once overheated it won't perform at all. i5 CPUs might actually perform better then i7 since they produce less heat and have lower chance to be affected by throttling.
-> Get CPU with less TDP and even lower clock speed if heat becomes an issue.
4 and 5 would be software issue and lack of GPU performance, still not CPU issue.
edit:
From article, even if still not confirmed I don't think it's possible to have 45W across all CPUs (from i3 to i9). Unless we double cut CPU clock once we add 2 times more cores.
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I don't like the use of the i9 moniker for only a 6 core hyper threaded CPU, it's a 'con' to use that moniker. Could do with being some consistency in terms of core count at least between desktop & mobile when it comes to i5/i7/i9 etc - I can deal with the core frequencies being different (lower) on the mobile CPUs but I think core count should retain some equality in terms of the series numbering between desktop & mobile.
What makes it worse is that on the mobile front there's even inconsistency with the series numbering within it's own mobile sphere (when not even comparing to desktop). They have here 6 core hyperthreaded CPUs described as both i7 & i9 - there's not even any logical consistency here either.
On a positive note: good to have 6 core CPUs arriving in laptops!