Lenovo spills beans with AMD Radeon HD 8950 3GB card

#4495624 Posted on: 01/08/2013 03:49 AM

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Wake me up when

yadayadayada

#4495625 Posted on: 01/08/2013 03:50 AM

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#4495678 Posted on: 01/08/2013 06:44 AM

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8970:
http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Radeon_HD_8970_Feature_Summary.pdf

#4495681 Posted on: 01/08/2013 06:53 AM

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Am i missing something? because it looks like the 7970 and 8970 are exactly the same hardware spec wise.

#4495715 Posted on: 01/08/2013 09:44 AM

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they are rebrands of series 7000 for the most part

#4495721 Posted on: 01/08/2013 09:57 AM

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"Desktop OEM PCs"

I wish Nvida and AMD would stop doing this confusing name process.

#4495739 Posted on: 01/08/2013 10:29 AM

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food for thought gurus, prepare your budget and mood

story: 5870 =< 480 , 6970 < 580

present and future: 7970 =< 680 , 8970 < 780

amd is not heading for high end gpu this time, they cannot..
their flagship : 8990 (as 6990 on the past)
This generation was different. First of all, the 7970 took the crown in most games above 1080p (2560 x 1440 and multi-monitor), which is where it flexes its muscles the most. It has a higher memory bandwidth, higher GPU GFLOPS, much much better compute. It trades that off with power, temperatures, and noise, of course.

We're not even talking about the GHz edition, which flat out beats the 680 in most games even at 1080p.

The GHz edition mainly shows what the 7970 GPU can do @1000MHz+, slightly above its 925MHz clock, where it is already within few % point of the 680 in the games it loses to it.

Do remember that before 2006, ATI graphics cards were on top (7000 series days), as I remember. Since then, they're been playing catch-up to Nvidia at the high-end. Their prices were fantastic throughout, and they've been continuously improving their drivers. This gen, they had the upper hand.

Let's not forget the 3-month advantage AMD enjoyed this gen as they knocked out the 7950/7970 at the start of the year, while it took Nvidia 3 more months to get out their 680.

The 680 is a great power-efficient GAMING card. However, it has crippled compute performance and its sweet-spot is 1080p for the most part. It has almost the same memory bandwidth as the GTX580, where the 7970 has 25%+ mem bandwidth.

Things aren't that clear cut anymore.

#4495747 Posted on: 01/08/2013 10:53 AM

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He only cared about GCN2.
Did you even look at the screenshot you're posting?

#4495774 Posted on: 01/08/2013 12:23 PM

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This generation was different. First of all, the 7970 took the crown in most games above 1080p (2560 x 1440 and multi-monitor), which is where it flexes its muscles the most. It has a higher memory bandwidth, higher GPU GFLOPS, much much better compute. It trades that off with power, temperatures, and noise, of course.

We're not even talking about the GHz edition, which flat out beats the 680 in most games even at 1080p.

The GHz edition mainly shows what the 7970 GPU can do @1000MHz+, slightly above its 925MHz clock, where it is already within few % point of the 680 in the games it loses to it.

Do remember that before 2006, ATI graphics cards were on top (7000 series days), as I remember. Since then, they're been playing catch-up to Nvidia at the high-end. Their prices were fantastic throughout, and they've been continuously improving their drivers. This gen, they had the upper hand.

Let's not forget the 3-month advantage AMD enjoyed this gen as they knocked out the 7950/7970 at the start of the year, while it took Nvidia 3 more months to get out their 680.

The 680 is a great power-efficient GAMING card. However, it has crippled compute performance and its sweet-spot is 1080p for the most part. It has almost the same memory bandwidth as the GTX580, where the 7970 has 25%+ mem bandwidth.

Things aren't that clear cut anymore.

with latest performance 310.90 drivers, even 7970ghz can't keep up with gtx680.

12.11 b11 are not saving 7000series anymore

#4495775 Posted on: 01/08/2013 12:31 PM

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bad too bad, the differences are minimal with the current generation, rumors about poor innovation came true, i am not trolling neither spamming...i am worried as customer and as an amd fan, i haven't touched nvidia in my pcs since 2001...only my brother take always green...

r.i.p amd, it's the end, kepler refresh is gonna smash the competition

if the specs are legit...8970 will struggle to compete even with 770gtx.

#4495805 Posted on: 01/08/2013 01:35 PM

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bad too bad, the differences are minimal with the current generation, rumors about poor innovation came true, i am not trolling neither spamming...i am worried as customer and as an amd fan, i haven't touched nvidia in my pcs since 2001...only my brother take always green...

r.i.p amd, it's the end, kepler refresh is gonna smash the competition

if the specs are legit...8970 will struggle to compete even with 770gtx.

AMD is pulling an NVidia and rebadging an entire generation for OEMs. The retail cards are expected to be faster and GCN2 based.

#4495828 Posted on: 01/08/2013 02:36 PM

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pulling nvidia meaning.?

nvidia is calm and pushing their plans months later, made tons of money because gcn was weaker than kepler...

gk110 was the high-end and never came out (now it's supposedly a refresh), nvidia re-branded mid-range gpu as high-end...and all enthusiasts took a mid-range gk104 as the fastest single gpu...

gcn2 was supposed to be opposed by a kepler refresh not the original...
nvidia is not in a hurry to rush out anything, they enjoy these moments...
i am not happy...it's like a bad ending coming...i expected more from amd...

rumor: gk110 is exactly performing as 100% utilized 2 heavily oc'ed 2way sli gtx580...

#4495836 Posted on: 01/08/2013 02:47 PM

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2x 580GTX sounds ok, but i was expecting at least 2x 670 GTX.. We will see what time brings.

He only cared about GCN2.
Did you even look at the screenshot you're posting?

Yeah that looks a bit off, especially low ROP count, only 32?


So when are both due Q2 2013?

#4495839 Posted on: 01/08/2013 02:50 PM

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^^ yeah i agree, but a highly oc'ed gtx580 is faster in everything than a stock 670 anyway...so it is the same

#4495866 Posted on: 01/08/2013 03:46 PM

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What i dont care about is your fanboyism because its a little tiresome.

Hallryu said it right in first reply.
There is not munch or any gpu info anyway so its irrelevant for now, especially your marketing numbers.. ;p


Wake me up when we start to see some real details about GCN2 and GK110? hopefully its not just another GK104 (read* more cores kinda like GF114) middle ware chip >_<

yep am with u and Hallyru. It seems some people like to xxxx in their pants as soon as there is any whiff of anything negative that could be said at either company.

sad really but there u go, i prefer to sit back and watch it all unfold without passing premature comment (see what i did there )

wake me up in a few months...

p.s yikes what an ugly pc