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Leaked Intel Alder Lake slides indicate support for PCIe 5.0 and DDR5

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/22/2021 09:11 AM | source: videocardz | 20 comment(s)
Leaked Intel Alder Lake slides indicate support for PCIe 5.0 and DDR5

Over the weekend a slide leaked on the Intel's pending Alder Lake, you know the BIG.little core design processors that will follow later this year, after Rocket Lake. The slide indicates the 10nm processors will receive support for DDR5 and PCIe 5.0

Intel itself has indicated a release late this year for this 10nm lga1700 socket processor series for notebooks and desktops. However leaked marketing slides published by VideoCardz include showing a thing or two more. Performance in single-threads could be  'up to twenty percent better. Note, It's not indicated what intel is actually comparing to, (Rocket Lake or Tiger Lake)

The slides also show that multithreaded performance would be 'up to twice' better as well as usage of Gracemont cores. Alder Lake CPUs would get two types of cores. In addition to faster Golden Cove cores with hyperthreading, the CPUs also get energy-efficient Gracemont cores without hyperthreading, which should improve multithreaded performance. The CPUs will utilize hardware-controlled scheduling to distribute tasks between the different cores.

 

 

Alder Lake will be get up to eight Golden Cove cores and up-to eight Gracemont cores, so that's in one with previous leaks we've seen, 16 cores and 24 threads. Interesting to notice is that Alder Lake CPUs have sixteen PCIe 5.0 and four PCIe 4.0 lanes. System memory-wise Alder Lake supports both DDR5 and DDR4 memory.

Intel confirmed the arrival of Alder Lake at CES in January but shared only a few details at the time. 

 



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#5898435 Posted on: 03/23/2021 04:38 AM
just a reminder that intel doesn't benefit from DDR frequency as much as AMD does.

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#5898898 Posted on: 03/24/2021 01:02 PM
PCIE 5 is pointless, skip to 6.

PCIe 6.0 is not finalized yet.
Also M.2 (NVMe) slots will be limited to PCIe 4.0 x4 in both Alder Lake and Meteor Lake, according to WccfTech.

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#5898910 Posted on: 03/24/2021 02:10 PM
just a reminder that intel doesn't benefit from DDR frequency as much as AMD does.

this is true
I compared some of the same games that appear in both tests,r5 3600 usually sees 10-15% increase form going from 3000 to 3600
i5 8600k it's 5-10%
so both benefit,and noticeably,ryzen gets 4-6% more out of it.

https://www.purepc.pl/jaka-pamiec-do-procesora-amd-ryzen-5-3600-test-ddr4-2133-4000?page=0,17
https://www.purepc.pl/test-pamieci-ddr4-2133-3600-mhz-na-intel-core-i5-8600k?page=0,4

it's also worth mentioning 4000 async mode is barely as good as 3400/3200 sync

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#5898911 Posted on: 03/24/2021 02:14 PM
PCIe 6.0 is not finalized yet.
Also M.2 (NVMe) slots will be limited to PCIe 4.0 x4 in both Alder Lake and Meteor Lake, according to WccfTech.

PCIE 6.0 has almost final draft, and PHY/Receivers are in development.

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#5898917 Posted on: 03/24/2021 02:33 PM
PCIe 6.0 is not finalized yet.
Also M.2 (NVMe) slots will be limited to PCIe 4.0 x4 in both Alder Lake and Meteor Lake, according to WccfTech.

We really need a storage solution that addresses latency/random read/write before going beyond PCIe 4.0X4 matters much anyway. If you compare the 870 EVO to the 980 Pro you see more than a 12X in sequential read but barely a 2X in 4K random. Clearly the interface does not help much on the random side. Optane has too many caveats unfortunately so we need something in between NAND and Optane. Getting 4K random to 160MB/S (effectively double the current best NAND solution) would be a nice goal for PCIe 5.0X4.

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