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Latest Denuvo Protections Seems to Hold and hasn’t been cracked
Did you guys notice anything with the latest game releases? Yep, the latest version of Denuvo seems to hold as it has not yet been cracked, companies like EA and Ubisoft, therefore, will continue to use it into 2018, after Denuvo got a lot of scrutinies this year.
For example, Ubisoft released the latest Assassin’s Creed Origins back in October, which has the latest version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech. And after two whole months, this new version of Denuvo is still safe from crackers and hackers. Ubi actually uses another layer of protection, VMProtect on top of the latest version of the Denuvo. While that created a lot of buzz on the web over CPU load etc, it does seem to work.
Other games with the protection are Sonic Forces, Injustice 2, Football Manager 2018, Need for Speed Payback and Star Wars Battlefront 2, all of them have not been cracked it seems. Ubisoft, EA, SEGA and Warner Bros have not revealed any sales data in order to see whether the lack of a cracked version benefited these PC games.
In the past, within hours games got cracked. It'll be interesting to see how this is going to develop into the year 2018.
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#5505288 Posted on: 12/29/2017 11:46 AM
The only acceptable forms of DRM are those that can be cracked. I have some Starforce protected games on DVD from way before 2010, and none of them work anymore. Try using the Splinter Cell Chaos Theory or Colin McRae 2005 DVDs today. They're just worthless $60 coasters now. If it wasn't for cracks, I couldn't play these games anymore. The cracked versions on the other hand work perfectly fine on modern Windows.
Seriously, fk "uncrackable DRM." I don't want to buy games with a built-in expiration date anymore. GOG does really seem to be the most reasonable source to buy games from now.
The only acceptable forms of DRM are those that can be cracked. I have some Starforce protected games on DVD from way before 2010, and none of them work anymore. Try using the Splinter Cell Chaos Theory or Colin McRae 2005 DVDs today. They're just worthless $60 coasters now. If it wasn't for cracks, I couldn't play these games anymore. The cracked versions on the other hand work perfectly fine on modern Windows.
Seriously, fk "uncrackable DRM." I don't want to buy games with a built-in expiration date anymore. GOG does really seem to be the most reasonable source to buy games from now.
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#5505293 Posted on: 12/29/2017 12:08 PM
Soon we will need DPU (DRM processing unit) in our PCs.
Hopefully, if this time comes some greedy company will buy them out and the technology will die like PPU (physics processing unit).
I mean how many DRM systems on top of each other do we really need?
If you buy Ubisoft game on Steam you'll get: Steam -> Uplay -> Denuvo -> VMProtect -> always online.
I refuse to buy games that run on Virtual Machine and force you to be always online (apart from your ISP, there are often problems with backend servers).
Soon we will need DPU (DRM processing unit) in our PCs.
Hopefully, if this time comes some greedy company will buy them out and the technology will die like PPU (physics processing unit).
I mean how many DRM systems on top of each other do we really need?
If you buy Ubisoft game on Steam you'll get: Steam -> Uplay -> Denuvo -> VMProtect -> always online.
I refuse to buy games that run on Virtual Machine and force you to be always online (apart from your ISP, there are often problems with backend servers).
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#5505298 Posted on: 12/29/2017 12:33 PM
No, because they are not worth pirating :/
Certainly not worth building a £1000+ gaming rig for.
No, because they are not worth pirating :/
Certainly not worth building a £1000+ gaming rig for.
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#5505299 Posted on: 12/29/2017 12:35 PM
Just wait until some good games worth cracking comes with the new Denuvo and it will be gone in no time.
Just wait until some good games worth cracking comes with the new Denuvo and it will be gone in no time.
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#5505311 Posted on: 12/29/2017 01:22 PM
Come on guys.
How can you say that the reason is that these games are not worth cracking ?
Crackers crack every little terrible game released,
and many people give them a try cause they are free.
And you believe that nobody would be interested to play titles such as Assassin's Creed, NFS, FM and Battlefront 2 ?
Come on guys.
How can you say that the reason is that these games are not worth cracking ?
Crackers crack every little terrible game released,
and many people give them a try cause they are free.
And you believe that nobody would be interested to play titles such as Assassin's Creed, NFS, FM and Battlefront 2 ?
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#5505316 Posted on: 12/29/2017 01:38 PM
Just wish companies would give up on this DRM nonsense. people who dont want to buy the game will never ever buy the game, they will wait however long to pirate it or move on elsewhere. many who pirate just dont have the income needed to purchase the games that they want or some just get them for the sake of getting them.
Just hate how it ends up affecting those like me who actually spend the money to purchase the games, AC:O is a good example of DRM going wrong... even if i can run it, i'm either getting less FPS than i should be or my system is having to work that much harder causing my electricity bill to become higher.
Though more i think about it i think places like EA and ubisoft know DRM is pointless and just do it to appease their stock holders more than anything, to show they are trying to least do something to protect their IPs
Just wish companies would give up on this DRM nonsense. people who dont want to buy the game will never ever buy the game, they will wait however long to pirate it or move on elsewhere. many who pirate just dont have the income needed to purchase the games that they want or some just get them for the sake of getting them.
Just hate how it ends up affecting those like me who actually spend the money to purchase the games, AC:O is a good example of DRM going wrong... even if i can run it, i'm either getting less FPS than i should be or my system is having to work that much harder causing my electricity bill to become higher.
Though more i think about it i think places like EA and ubisoft know DRM is pointless and just do it to appease their stock holders more than anything, to show they are trying to least do something to protect their IPs
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#5505321 Posted on: 12/29/2017 02:05 PM
Just wish companies would give up on this DRM nonsense. people who dont want to buy the game will never ever buy the game, they will wait however long to pirate it or move on elsewhere. many who pirate just dont have the income needed to purchase the games that they want or some just get them for the sake of getting them.
Just hate how it ends up affecting those like me who actually spend the money to purchase the games, AC:O is a good example of DRM going wrong... even if i can run it, i'm either getting less FPS than i should be or my system is having to work that much harder causing my electricity bill to become higher.
Though more i think about it i think places like EA and ubisoft know DRM is pointless and just do it to appease their stock holders more than anything, to show they are trying to least do something to protect their IPs
So anything I don't have the income to afford, I can basically steal? Is this what you are saying? Yes, DRM and any other measures to combat stealing are a pain for all those who pay for their music, films, games but if the stealing hadn't become so prevalent than we would still be loading our games in the non-restrictive way I can still load 'Return to Castle Wolfie' (ok, we'd be using DVD's and a good few of them) but Steam and its mateys have come about for a reason.
And I own shares via my pension and ISA's and yes, I would like my pension and ISA's to perform well so I have the income to to pay for food, heating & lighting, games etc so it helps me if the companies who produce music, films and games do well. I think in the UK, people are good at 'giving' in all sorts of ways (money, things, time) to help those less fortunate in society, where I live we have a growing number of charity shops that are clearly very well supported. Games are tricky to 'give' but music and films aren't.
Sorry, got to go now, I'm off to a class to learn 'How To Steal That New Ferrari I can't Afford'. Very annoying, the car manufacturers inconveniently fit DRM devices to make it difficult to steal their products, I need one of those key boosting devices featured on Guru3D recently (the YouTube video of the Mercedes-Benz being stolen).
Just wish companies would give up on this DRM nonsense. people who dont want to buy the game will never ever buy the game, they will wait however long to pirate it or move on elsewhere. many who pirate just dont have the income needed to purchase the games that they want or some just get them for the sake of getting them.
Just hate how it ends up affecting those like me who actually spend the money to purchase the games, AC:O is a good example of DRM going wrong... even if i can run it, i'm either getting less FPS than i should be or my system is having to work that much harder causing my electricity bill to become higher.
Though more i think about it i think places like EA and ubisoft know DRM is pointless and just do it to appease their stock holders more than anything, to show they are trying to least do something to protect their IPs
So anything I don't have the income to afford, I can basically steal? Is this what you are saying? Yes, DRM and any other measures to combat stealing are a pain for all those who pay for their music, films, games but if the stealing hadn't become so prevalent than we would still be loading our games in the non-restrictive way I can still load 'Return to Castle Wolfie' (ok, we'd be using DVD's and a good few of them) but Steam and its mateys have come about for a reason.
And I own shares via my pension and ISA's and yes, I would like my pension and ISA's to perform well so I have the income to to pay for food, heating & lighting, games etc so it helps me if the companies who produce music, films and games do well. I think in the UK, people are good at 'giving' in all sorts of ways (money, things, time) to help those less fortunate in society, where I live we have a growing number of charity shops that are clearly very well supported. Games are tricky to 'give' but music and films aren't.
Sorry, got to go now, I'm off to a class to learn 'How To Steal That New Ferrari I can't Afford'. Very annoying, the car manufacturers inconveniently fit DRM devices to make it difficult to steal their products, I need one of those key boosting devices featured on Guru3D recently (the YouTube video of the Mercedes-Benz being stolen).
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#5505331 Posted on: 12/29/2017 02:54 PM
It's not stealing.
Sharing is caring
So anything I don't have the income to afford, I can basically steal? Is this what you are saying?
It's not stealing.
Sharing is caring
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#5505335 Posted on: 12/29/2017 03:10 PM
I'm not a person that likes piracy and I'm generally ashamed of it. I'm lazy and I like to have my games updated, with easy community and mod access, so I buy those.
If a game refuses to give me a good community, mods, multiplayer experience without hackers, continuity and on top off all that even sinks performance with DRM, I'll never buy it. I'll pirate it without remorse, play it if I like it and delete it forever.
I'm not a person that likes piracy and I'm generally ashamed of it. I'm lazy and I like to have my games updated, with easy community and mod access, so I buy those.
If a game refuses to give me a good community, mods, multiplayer experience without hackers, continuity and on top off all that even sinks performance with DRM, I'll never buy it. I'll pirate it without remorse, play it if I like it and delete it forever.
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#5505343 Posted on: 12/29/2017 03:33 PM
While the games that I have played with Denuvo implemented I have never noticed any performance drops at all. But what I do not like about it is where they cut you off from playing for a certain amount of time if you are benchmarking the game from a hardware aspect like Hilbert has done from having too many hardware changes. To me that is BS. Yeah I know that there are review codes to get around this. But to me still this isn't as bad as Secu-ROM where the game refuses to load because of having either Deamon Tools installed or having 2 optical drives installed on your computer. Another thing that is annoying about it is no mods to allow for extra content in the game.
While the games that I have played with Denuvo implemented I have never noticed any performance drops at all. But what I do not like about it is where they cut you off from playing for a certain amount of time if you are benchmarking the game from a hardware aspect like Hilbert has done from having too many hardware changes. To me that is BS. Yeah I know that there are review codes to get around this. But to me still this isn't as bad as Secu-ROM where the game refuses to load because of having either Deamon Tools installed or having 2 optical drives installed on your computer. Another thing that is annoying about it is no mods to allow for extra content in the game.
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#5505352 Posted on: 12/29/2017 03:58 PM
The load times of injustice 2 are abysmal. I hope this virus is gone soon.
The load times of injustice 2 are abysmal. I hope this virus is gone soon.
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#5505363 Posted on: 12/29/2017 04:46 PM
To tell you the truth I was going to check Assassins Creed 1 when it came out, there was no proper crack for it back in time and I could not afford it at the moment, I did not play it. Now I do not give a toss about any of them coming out because I am so far back I cant really enjoy the graphics of the first chapter and I do not want to start in the middle or at the end of series, even tho I got AC 1 for free and Black Flag or something
To tell you the truth I was going to check Assassins Creed 1 when it came out, there was no proper crack for it back in time and I could not afford it at the moment, I did not play it. Now I do not give a toss about any of them coming out because I am so far back I cant really enjoy the graphics of the first chapter and I do not want to start in the middle or at the end of series, even tho I got AC 1 for free and Black Flag or something
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#5505370 Posted on: 12/29/2017 05:00 PM
DRM only hurts company in the long term. But they are so greedy they cant see that. Good game will always sell, crap game will not, easy. Example Witcher 3.
DRM only hurts company in the long term. But they are so greedy they cant see that. Good game will always sell, crap game will not, easy. Example Witcher 3.
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#5505374 Posted on: 12/29/2017 05:35 PM
Why am I not surprised?
Ubisoft, EA, SEGA and Warner Bros have not revealed any sales data in order to see whether the lack of a cracked version benefited these PC games.
Why am I not surprised?
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FYI, Origins also have VMProtect on top of Denuvo. So even if 4.7 version of Denuvo gets cracked, Origins probably won't be yet.