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Is this the GeForce RTX 3080? (updated with inside heatsink photo)
Check it out, these could be the first pictures of a reference NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080, that would be an "Ampere" graphics card. And if you pay attentione to the photo, it has a unique and different design alright.
Photo that was posted on Chiphell is based on the card with a dual-fan aluminum fin-stack cooler. I've taken a good look, and yes, this one looks very plausible to be the real thing in my opinion. The RTX 3080 badge always could be photoshopped of course, but that design would perfectly fit an NVIDIA reference design. The cooler is all aluminum, the blue part is a plastic wrapper. The PCB of the card is irregular and appears to cover roughly two-thirds of the length of the cooler, it could even mean the usage of HBM2 graphics memory due to that shorter PCB, but GDDR6 certainly fits as well. Check the ROUGH PCB figures in the unofficial draw up from @9550pro. The two fan design has something interesting going on, the fans are each placed on opposite sides of the card pushing the air in different directions. Like so:
That would mean a push-pull design in order to get maximum airflow running through those aluminum fins inside the cooler. GeForce RTX 2080 would be Ampere based, NVIDIA's latest GPU architecture with likely an increased offering in Raytracing performance capacity. Little is known about the consumer products other then we extact them to be announced after the summer. Check the photo, we cannot vouch for its validity, but it certainly does look very plausible.
Updated June 10th - a new photo just leaked showing the inside of what seems to be that cooling design. The photo once again originates from Asia, we cannot vouch for any validity of course.
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#5799456 Posted on: 06/14/2020 03:54 PM
Reading further, there is intent made to embed this in a MCM, so its likely Hopper Raytracing for non-consumer graphics cards that want to render scenes in real time, and where latency isn't actually a concern.
Pixar's gunna love this.
Reading further, there is intent made to embed this in a MCM, so its likely Hopper Raytracing for non-consumer graphics cards that want to render scenes in real time, and where latency isn't actually a concern.
Pixar's gunna love this.
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#5799472 Posted on: 06/14/2020 06:06 PM
That's interesting - wonder if we'll see Apple adding support for more things NVIDIA again (I think the last thing they supported was Pascal)
That's interesting - wonder if we'll see Apple adding support for more things NVIDIA again (I think the last thing they supported was Pascal)
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#5799523 Posted on: 06/14/2020 09:22 PM
On top of that: "Magnitude faster..."
It's same issue I had with previous rumor where weakest Amp DX-R capability exceeded that of 2080Ti. While I would not mind such thing. It would kill those older cards usability.
And like having 10 times power of current generation... while possible, not realistic.
Things said about headset at end were either taken out of context and misunderstood or were not based on reality either.
But he got some general things relatively right. Sadly, not things for which people watch such video.
BS, there is no such thing as a traversal co processor chip, and the performance of RT in nvidia's designs needs to be directly in the SM.
On top of that: "Magnitude faster..."
It's same issue I had with previous rumor where weakest Amp DX-R capability exceeded that of 2080Ti. While I would not mind such thing. It would kill those older cards usability.
And like having 10 times power of current generation... while possible, not realistic.
Things said about headset at end were either taken out of context and misunderstood or were not based on reality either.
But he got some general things relatively right. Sadly, not things for which people watch such video.
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#5799529 Posted on: 06/14/2020 10:35 PM
I mean yeah granted that was harsh of me and I was being very sarcastic. I do mean it though, the aspect on price. Sense of satisfaction coming from $1,000 purchases tied to these GPUs as opposed to other things I pay $1,000 for. I feel like part of this is why NVIDIA came out with Studio drivers for these cards. They themselves knew more and more of us would just lose the interest in them. For me I'm running the Studio drivers at times because of work but I could have sworn I saw AMD was offering competitive solution for that as well?
I would like to end on this. No one has ever proven that NVIDIA's slow incremental increase over time is nothing but a side effect of control on the marketplace because of no competition. I have never seen proof that they "have" to price the products of late at the current schema; nor have defenders of NVIDIA financial strategy been willing to provide any concrete proof. Just statements and posts to nonsensical drivel.
Yes!
I'd love to know the markup percentage for nv's current pricing...
as for the mention of "why did I pay this much for a 2080 Ti" (IF the 3080 would be truly affordable), well, that I think is a question people would do very well to ask themselves.
Not too long ago flagship cards were 300 EUR or thereabouts (eg. GT 6800 Ultra I think).
Go back to days before 3D acceleration and high end (desktop / consumer) video cards were at the 200 EUR mark.
Granted somewhat apples to oranges comparison but point remains.
Sure hardware has become more complex but so have manufacturing methods advanced and surely there's less of having to come up with something completely new these days.
Ie. the wheel has already been invented.
Or did the process width versus transistor count hit a threshold and start giving increasingly diminishing returns costwise?
Hence the ever hiking prices?
Anyway when I paid 400+ EUR for a Radeon 290 that felt like too much.
Two years later I paid 700+ for a GTX 980 Ti - which felt insane, you could build a low end PC for that money - and promised to myself this is the absolute limit and already way too much for a single piece of PC hardware that is obsolete in 6 to 12 months.
The days of sub 500 EUR flagship cards are gone but the days of 1000+ EUR flagship cards must go.
I've bought cars for less than that!
I mean yeah granted that was harsh of me and I was being very sarcastic. I do mean it though, the aspect on price. Sense of satisfaction coming from $1,000 purchases tied to these GPUs as opposed to other things I pay $1,000 for. I feel like part of this is why NVIDIA came out with Studio drivers for these cards. They themselves knew more and more of us would just lose the interest in them. For me I'm running the Studio drivers at times because of work but I could have sworn I saw AMD was offering competitive solution for that as well?
I would like to end on this. No one has ever proven that NVIDIA's slow incremental increase over time is nothing but a side effect of control on the marketplace because of no competition. I have never seen proof that they "have" to price the products of late at the current schema; nor have defenders of NVIDIA financial strategy been willing to provide any concrete proof. Just statements and posts to nonsensical drivel.
Yes!
I'd love to know the markup percentage for nv's current pricing...
as for the mention of "why did I pay this much for a 2080 Ti" (IF the 3080 would be truly affordable), well, that I think is a question people would do very well to ask themselves.
Not too long ago flagship cards were 300 EUR or thereabouts (eg. GT 6800 Ultra I think).
Go back to days before 3D acceleration and high end (desktop / consumer) video cards were at the 200 EUR mark.
Granted somewhat apples to oranges comparison but point remains.
Sure hardware has become more complex but so have manufacturing methods advanced and surely there's less of having to come up with something completely new these days.
Ie. the wheel has already been invented.
Or did the process width versus transistor count hit a threshold and start giving increasingly diminishing returns costwise?
Hence the ever hiking prices?
Anyway when I paid 400+ EUR for a Radeon 290 that felt like too much.
Two years later I paid 700+ for a GTX 980 Ti - which felt insane, you could build a low end PC for that money - and promised to myself this is the absolute limit and already way too much for a single piece of PC hardware that is obsolete in 6 to 12 months.
The days of sub 500 EUR flagship cards are gone but the days of 1000+ EUR flagship cards must go.
I've bought cars for less than that!
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I'll give you that if there's a patent out for a dedicated one plus that part about adding additional dedicated cards like AGEIA physx cards is a good monetization strategy. Bad for me, good for business.
EDIT: Although it'd be easy to compete against if AMD wanted to use it as a sticking point when they enter the RT market; granted big navi is successful.