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Is AMD Clearing Stock in Anticipation for the 12nm Zen+ April Update? Prices are dropping.
In April AMD is going to release the Ryzen refresh processor. It is expected that for example the Ryzen 7 1800X will be replaced with a model like 2800X. The newer models are slightly optimized and likely clocked a bit higher. However often before a new refresh generation kicks in, prices often drop. I did some rounds and yeah check it out.
So the historical trend is showing a dip year to year for pricing. Initially, when launched the Ryzen 7 1800X sold (in the EU) for roughly 550 Euros. Over the month's prices gradually dropped, during black Friday, for two weeks there was an action that brought some even better value to Ryzen processors. After Black Friday, the prices went back to normals and from there in early January, prices started to drop, now to an all-time low, and even lower than the prices during Black Friday.
From the looks of it, AMD is clearing stock in anticipation for the new Zen+ 12nm refresh slash updated processors. Check the chart below to see what is going on. These are Western EU based prices, by the way, incl VAT.
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Processor model |
Cores/Threads |
L3 Cache |
TDP |
Base |
Turbo |
Unlocked |
Original Price |
Current Price |
| AMD Ryzen 7 1800X | 8/16 | 16 MB | 95 W | 3.6 GHz | 4.0 GHz | Yes | 499 | ~310 |
| AMD Ryzen 7 1700X | 8/16 | 16 MB | 95 W | 3.4 GHz | 3.8 GHz | Yes | 399 | ~285 |
| AMD Ryzen 7 1700 | 8/16 | 16 MB | 65 W | 3.0 GHz | 3.7 GHz | Yes | 329 | ~275 |
| AMD Ryzen 5 1600X | 6/12 | 16 MB | 95 W | 3.6 GHz | 4.0 GHz | Yes | 249 | ~160 |
| AMD Ryzen 5 1600 | 6/12 | 16 MB | 65 W | 3.2 GHz | 3.6 GHz | Yes | 219 | ~160 |
| AMD Ryzen 5 1500X | 4/8 | 16 MB | 65 W | 3.5 GHz | 3.7 GHz | Yes | 189 | ~145 |
| AMD Ryzen 5 1400 | 4/8 | 8 MB | 65 W | 3.2 GHz | 3.4 GHz | Yes | 169 | ~135 |
| AMD Ryzen 3 1300X | 4/4 | 8 MB | 65 W | 3.4 GHz | 3.7 GHz | Yes | 129 | ~110 |
| AMD Ryzen 3 1200 | 4/4 | 8 MB | 65 W | 3.1 GHz | 3.4 GHz | Yes | 109 | ~95 |
So the 1800X you can now spot for 309,- Euros which is just tremendous value. I ran some more checks and pretty much this effect you'll see on the entire Ryzen lineup. I need to make a strong note here as prices will and do vary throughout Europe and ROW. However the trend in price drop indicative for clearing stock. And as such, if you had it planned, now might be an excellent time to pick up a new Ryzen processor. Remember, once stock runs dry, prices would go up again.
The prices for Ryzen Threadripper seem to be holding steady, you can spot the sixteen core 1950X for 860 euros, the 12 core 1920X for 640 euros and the eight-core 1900X for 385 Euros.
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#5523547 Posted on: 02/27/2018 10:41 AM
I think he said that because of the what the GPUs MSRP is supposed to be. Yes, GPUs cost more then their MSRP right now, but their MSRP is not bad.
A little difference from say, ram, which i'm not even sure if they have MSRP anymore, they just go up and down, they are never "on sale" they just get cheaper then more expensive.
Correct me if i'm wrong about ram not having MSRP, but i haven't seen one.
The only difference is who pockets all the money. The consumer will suffer the same in both cases. MSRP is pure hypocrisy if it's unavailable to most people. Personally I think it's a good thing miners need to pay outrageous amounts for the cards (so it's a good thing no store cares about the MSRP), but it's a pity gamers suffer on the side (so it's a bad thing no store cares about the MSRP).
I think he said that because of the what the GPUs MSRP is supposed to be. Yes, GPUs cost more then their MSRP right now, but their MSRP is not bad.
A little difference from say, ram, which i'm not even sure if they have MSRP anymore, they just go up and down, they are never "on sale" they just get cheaper then more expensive.
Correct me if i'm wrong about ram not having MSRP, but i haven't seen one.
The only difference is who pockets all the money. The consumer will suffer the same in both cases. MSRP is pure hypocrisy if it's unavailable to most people. Personally I think it's a good thing miners need to pay outrageous amounts for the cards (so it's a good thing no store cares about the MSRP), but it's a pity gamers suffer on the side (so it's a bad thing no store cares about the MSRP).
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#5523590 Posted on: 02/27/2018 02:05 PM
Unreasonable RAM prices are keeping me from upgrading. It's just silly.
Additionally, with more functionality moving to the CPU and motherboards doing less, motherboards are unreasonably-priced these days as well. How are they doing less than ever, but costing more than ever? But WOW! They sure do have lots of pretty lights now?!
Don't even get me started on the GPU prices...
Totally agree with you on the pricing, but as for the motherboards doing less these days I would have to totally disagree.
With so much more going on inside the motherboards these days it's just crazy. Not sure how you can say there is less going on with the mobo's today as compared to them three to four years ago.
Just the M.2 functionality alone is crazy to me with what they have achieved.
Unreasonable RAM prices are keeping me from upgrading. It's just silly.
Additionally, with more functionality moving to the CPU and motherboards doing less, motherboards are unreasonably-priced these days as well. How are they doing less than ever, but costing more than ever? But WOW! They sure do have lots of pretty lights now?!
Don't even get me started on the GPU prices...
Totally agree with you on the pricing, but as for the motherboards doing less these days I would have to totally disagree.
With so much more going on inside the motherboards these days it's just crazy. Not sure how you can say there is less going on with the mobo's today as compared to them three to four years ago.
Just the M.2 functionality alone is crazy to me with what they have achieved.
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#5523756 Posted on: 02/27/2018 09:49 PM
Totally agree with you on the pricing, but as for the motherboards doing less these days I would have to totally disagree.
With so much more going on inside the motherboards these days it's just crazy. Not sure how you can say there is less going on with the mobo's today as compared to them three to four years ago.
Just the M.2 functionality alone is crazy to me with what they have achieved.
M.2 is using the PCIe bus which already exists. It's much faster than the SATA bus on the southbridge. At least from the Intel standpoint, what was once the entire north bridge functionality (was once part of the motherboard) is now on the CPU (memory controllers, PCIe controllers, integrated video, etc...). This all used to be on the motherboard (northbridge and further back individual chips for each).
Now, you can get additional PCIe functionality/lanes through an additional controller added to some extended boards, but most people don't need them.
Totally agree with you on the pricing, but as for the motherboards doing less these days I would have to totally disagree.
With so much more going on inside the motherboards these days it's just crazy. Not sure how you can say there is less going on with the mobo's today as compared to them three to four years ago.
Just the M.2 functionality alone is crazy to me with what they have achieved.
M.2 is using the PCIe bus which already exists. It's much faster than the SATA bus on the southbridge. At least from the Intel standpoint, what was once the entire north bridge functionality (was once part of the motherboard) is now on the CPU (memory controllers, PCIe controllers, integrated video, etc...). This all used to be on the motherboard (northbridge and further back individual chips for each).
Now, you can get additional PCIe functionality/lanes through an additional controller added to some extended boards, but most people don't need them.
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#5523764 Posted on: 02/27/2018 10:03 PM
I'm still rocking the DDR3 1600. Even with quad-channel, it doesn't beat any data rate of the dual-channel DDR4.
same here, still stuck on ddr3 2133, cant justify it at those prices.
I'm still rocking the DDR3 1600. Even with quad-channel, it doesn't beat any data rate of the dual-channel DDR4.
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Yesterday, I saw on one shop one well priced Card which may be considered High End...
It was $1000 (Tax Included) Pro Duo (2x RX-580 with 2x 16GB GDDR5).
Anything below it till one overpriced RX-560 4G unavailable.