Intel Z399 the new successor of X299?

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/01/2018 07:35 AM | source: pcbuildersclub | 20 comment(s)

PBC heard from a PC manufacturer that the successor of the X299 chipset is going to be called Z399, a chipset used for the followup to Skylake-X. And yeah, that naming does conflict a little with AMD chipsets lately eh?

The news was posted by pcbuildersclub today who mentioned that a major computer manufacturer has given them info on what Intel is going to call the successor to X299. Since X399 clashes with X399 fro AMD Threadripper), it would be called Z399.

The new chipset is allegedly ready for production. It is intended for the successor of Intel’s HEDT division. However, this is not Cascade Lake-X yet, it is just a Skylake-X refresh. This generation will not come with 28 cores yet, only with up to 22 cores. These 22 core processors still fit in Intel’s LGA 2066 socket. it is rumored that Z399 and the Skylake-X-Refresh are scheduled to be launched this autumn. Probably even October is the date for the launch. Which features the Z399 chipset or the Skylake-X refresh will include is still unknown. Only the core count of 22 cores is known. This is Intel’s first reaction to AMD’s 32-core Threadripper 2990WX. A real competitor, though, will only be the 28-core of the Cascade Lake X series, which is scheduled to start in 2019.

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sverek

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#5590693 Posted on: 10/01/2018 07:48 AM

AMD trolling Intel hard with model naming.

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#5590696 Posted on: 10/01/2018 08:13 AM

OMG - Intel had support for 22 cores even on X99:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99E-WSUSB-31/HelpDesk-CPU/

So whats new? Refresh after refresh with frequency bump.

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#5590717 Posted on: 10/01/2018 10:03 AM

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#5590719 Posted on: 10/01/2018 10:06 AM

OMG - Intel had support for 22 cores even on X99:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99E-WSUSB-31/HelpDesk-CPU/

So whats new? Refresh after refresh with frequency bump.

or simply put.. They dont see any need for 22+ cores.. Only AMD making them because it sounds ridiculous - which it is - so they get free advertising in many forums because AMD fanboys talk so loudly about it. But who uses it. Sure.. there are a few in between with us in these forums.. but in reality we are only a little part of the overall customer base.

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#5590732 Posted on: 10/01/2018 11:33 AM

Another chipset??? I thought the X299 was supposed to last 2 or 3 generations... Intel is creating a giant mess with the continuous release of unnecessary chipsets just for the sake of money... And aggravating their customers in the process, me included...

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#5590733 Posted on: 10/01/2018 11:33 AM

or simply put.. They dont see any need for 22+ cores.. Only AMD making them because it sounds ridiculous - which it is - so they get free advertising in many forums because AMD fanboys talk so loudly about it. But who uses it. Sure.. there are a few in between with us in these forums.. but in reality we are only a little part of the overall customer base.

I see you aren't familiar with the Ryzen technology. AMD can make Threadrippers very easily by manufacturing small chips and gluing them together (figuratively speaking) to produce a HEDT CPU. Intel currently needs to compete with error-prone mammoth chips it would rather sell as super expensive Xeons.

If I were you, I wouldn't try to decide for others if what they need or want is ridiculous or not.

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#5590755 Posted on: 10/01/2018 12:52 PM

Yep, it was speculated that X299 will get the short stick on future CPU support. I mean, there are still X79 boards manufactured by some OEMs in China, often sold on AliExpress or TaoBao in a bundle with pre-mounted Xeon processor.

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#5590788 Posted on: 10/01/2018 02:36 PM

And yeah, that naming does conflict a little with AMD chipsets lately eh?

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#5590791 Posted on: 10/01/2018 02:50 PM

I use CPU rendering and believe me SmootyPoody, i need as many cores as i can get, you can check Corona renderer benchmark in this same page, that's the render engine that i use the most.. threadripper 2 just obliterate it! i would love to see Intel hi core count CPUs in the TR2 price range...

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#5590796 Posted on: 10/01/2018 02:58 PM

I would argue the opposite. As much as I like to blame Intel for causing conflicts and using terrible naming schemes, I'd say AMD is the one causing a problem here.

All that being said... despite AMD mucking the chipset naming schemes, Intel is also creating a mess regarding chipsets. Both companies are causing a problem here.

Starting with Ryzen AMD decided to copy the naming scheme of Intel and it makes sense from a marketing POV. AMD realized the influence of Intel´s brand power over normal consumers and decided that with a similar one it would be easier for people to understand what AMD products are offering. I would prefer something different from Intel but i can´t critize AMD for this.

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#5590813 Posted on: 10/01/2018 03:20 PM

Starting with Ryzen AMD decided to copy the naming scheme of Intel and it makes sense from a marketing POV. AMD realized the influence of Intel´s brand power over normal consumers and decided that with a similar one it would be easier for people to understand what AMD products are offering. I would prefer something different from Intel but i can´t critize AMD for this.

I completely agree with the first part, but why should Intel change their ways when AMD copied them?

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#5590824 Posted on: 10/01/2018 03:41 PM

It's been going on long before Ryzen, but you've got it right. Years ago Intel differentiated processors by the line and the speed, "Pentium 3, 1ghz" or "Pentium 4, 2.5 ghz". At the time AMD was faster, clock for clock, so they labeled their comparable processor like this: Pentium 4 2.8ghz = Athlon XP 2800 (actually 2.1ghz...).

Can't knock AMD for leveraging names that help draw comparison to Intel (market leader) products. Now what would be interesting to see: if AMD starts the next naming trend. We are a long way off from that now, but assuming rumors/predictions on Intel 14vs10nm and Zen 2 are remotely true, entirely possible that AMD could be the market leader whose product names get copied

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#5590859 Posted on: 10/01/2018 05:00 PM

I completely agree with the first part, but why should Intel change their ways when AMD copied them?

Well i didn´t wrote (directly) that Intel should change their naming ways although i think they should. Their naming conventions have lost all their meaning, like what the hell are the I3/5/7/9 supposed to mean??? They don´t indicate core counts, features or speeds, they only indicate that higher is better and more expensive...

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#5590870 Posted on: 10/01/2018 05:17 PM

Ah I see what you mean now. I would agree with this.

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#5590884 Posted on: 10/01/2018 05:52 PM

Just release the damn thing already

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