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Intel Z390 motherboard spotted in SiSoft Database
We already talked a little about the fact that Intel would/might be releasing another chipset called Z390 later this year. That is next to Coffee lake 6-core processors on what is to be the Z370 platform. A Z390 motherboard now has surfaced in the SiSoft Sandra database.
Intel has an 8-core 14nm Coffee Lake processor in the works. The information surfaced from an XTU errata log is showing change-log entry that reads out as "[CFL] Added support for 8,2 core,", see below. CFL obviously is short for Coffee Lake.
It would be an interesting move from Intel, as typically they design one desktop processor and base all models off from that one proc. To create an additional processor holding 8-cores is very unusual. If correct, this would be an 8-core/16-threaded part in the mainstream segment, and that would mean serious competition for AMD Ryzen 7.
The new info is derived from videocardz, who spotted the unit in the Sisoft database. it is listed with a 6-core proc (we assume the procs will be backward compatible. The entry comes from SMC (Super Micro). While originally intended for release late 2017, I do expect a launch Q1/Q2 2018 realistically with how incredibly low stock is for Coffee lake processors.
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#5492882 Posted on: 11/16/2017 06:52 PM
If you are suggesting that muliple pci devices have dynamic pci lane bandwidth limits....that's not how it works.
They don't fight for bandwidth. Each device has an allocated number of lanes. They don't go from 1 to 4 depending on load. Eithet they are running a 1, 2, or 4. They don't alter bandwidth limits on the fly.
Do GPUs have UP to 8/16 lanes and then drop down depending on other pco device usage.....that has literally never happened. That's not how it works.
I supposed the pci devices battle each other for bandwidth right? Rather than being limited to a st number or lanes.
What a stupid suggestion.
Lol to not repeat the post just look under your post at post of
If you are suggesting that muliple pci devices have dynamic pci lane bandwidth limits....that's not how it works.
They don't fight for bandwidth. Each device has an allocated number of lanes. They don't go from 1 to 4 depending on load. Eithet they are running a 1, 2, or 4. They don't alter bandwidth limits on the fly.
Do GPUs have UP to 8/16 lanes and then drop down depending on other pco device usage.....that has literally never happened. That's not how it works.
I supposed the pci devices battle each other for bandwidth right? Rather than being limited to a st number or lanes.
What a stupid suggestion.
Lol to not repeat the post just look under your post at post of
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#5492914 Posted on: 11/16/2017 09:09 PM
you guys keep buying and intel will happily deliver a chipset for every new cpu, coming soon a ZX chipset category to have both cpu AND memory oc! also XZ+ to have compatibility with non-intel nvme as boot drives!
you guys keep buying and intel will happily deliver a chipset for every new cpu, coming soon a ZX chipset category to have both cpu AND memory oc! also XZ+ to have compatibility with non-intel nvme as boot drives!
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#5492963 Posted on: 11/16/2017 11:32 PM
Knowing intel, they won't do it..
From what i saw initially 8core was bound to z390 because of "different" power management that's "missing" on z370.
That said, same shit as z87 vs z97 all over again..
I could plug-in broadwell on my mobo, I even flashed IME for it using z97 flasher and it worked, but for that it bugged my current haswell pcie bclk, maybe it would have worked different by broadwell, but I flashed back since I didn't have the intention to switch to 5775c..
That said z370 might work with forced IME but at own risk.
Knowing intel, they won't do it..
From what i saw initially 8core was bound to z390 because of "different" power management that's "missing" on z370.
That said, same shit as z87 vs z97 all over again..
I could plug-in broadwell on my mobo, I even flashed IME for it using z97 flasher and it worked, but for that it bugged my current haswell pcie bclk, maybe it would have worked different by broadwell, but I flashed back since I didn't have the intention to switch to 5775c..
That said z370 might work with forced IME but at own risk.
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#5493171 Posted on: 11/17/2017 02:17 PM
Well while i do not like the need of yet another chipset for 2 extra cores well we knew about 390 before the lunch of z370 no? Backwards compatibility itwill also be nice say your z270 board breaks down after warranty is over having the option to replace it with a z390 and keep your 7700 as long as it covers is also something i would love to see even if there are features disabled because the cpu does not support em
Well while i do not like the need of yet another chipset for 2 extra cores well we knew about 390 before the lunch of z370 no? Backwards compatibility itwill also be nice say your z270 board breaks down after warranty is over having the option to replace it with a z390 and keep your 7700 as long as it covers is also something i would love to see even if there are features disabled because the cpu does not support em
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Lol.
Yes it is how it works.
I'll quote from the PCIe datasheet, you know, the people that designed PCIe spec.
Because we know you'll argue against and keep digging that hole of yours.
You should have known this as you can easily see that GPU driver requests a lower power state and it electrically sends commands to host system to use less lanes with GPU z bandwidth test.