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Intel Z390 motherboard spotted in SiSoft Database
We already talked a little about the fact that Intel would/might be releasing another chipset called Z390 later this year. That is next to Coffee lake 6-core processors on what is to be the Z370 platform. A Z390 motherboard now has surfaced in the SiSoft Sandra database.
Intel has an 8-core 14nm Coffee Lake processor in the works. The information surfaced from an XTU errata log is showing change-log entry that reads out as "[CFL] Added support for 8,2 core,", see below. CFL obviously is short for Coffee Lake.
It would be an interesting move from Intel, as typically they design one desktop processor and base all models off from that one proc. To create an additional processor holding 8-cores is very unusual. If correct, this would be an 8-core/16-threaded part in the mainstream segment, and that would mean serious competition for AMD Ryzen 7.
The new info is derived from videocardz, who spotted the unit in the Sisoft database. it is listed with a 6-core proc (we assume the procs will be backward compatible. The entry comes from SMC (Super Micro). While originally intended for release late 2017, I do expect a launch Q1/Q2 2018 realistically with how incredibly low stock is for Coffee lake processors.
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#5492761 Posted on: 11/16/2017 01:12 PM
I knew Intel likes milking platform changes...but hell this is the 3rd performance class chipset in less than a year....
I knew Intel likes milking platform changes...but hell this is the 3rd performance class chipset in less than a year....
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#5492768 Posted on: 11/16/2017 01:42 PM
This is getting beyond ridiculous. 8-cores would be perfectly compatible with LGA1151 and even Z270, they just don't want to allow people that freedom. If it weren't for a necessitated Win7 compatibility, I'd be on Ryzen right now. And I'll be upgrading my backup rig to Raven Ridge when that comes out, anyway.
This is getting beyond ridiculous. 8-cores would be perfectly compatible with LGA1151 and even Z270, they just don't want to allow people that freedom. If it weren't for a necessitated Win7 compatibility, I'd be on Ryzen right now. And I'll be upgrading my backup rig to Raven Ridge when that comes out, anyway.
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#5492805 Posted on: 11/16/2017 03:35 PM
Lol how ignorant.
Even my z170 board from over 2 years ago is currently running 2 m.2 drives at full 3.0 4x speed as well as my graphics card at full 3.0 x16 speed.
A 950 pro 512gb and a 2tb 960 pro.
All z370 boards with 3 m.2 drives run them at full speed.
It's so funny to see people with stone age board features making claims about new boards features that are false.
Tell me what software you want me to verify the pci speeds with and I'll post a screenshot with them all in one, just for you my stone age friend.
Here is it, I couldn't have 2 instances of crystal disk info open so I have GPUz, crystal disk info and a crystal disk mark bencmark of the 960 pro all in one, thanks for playing champ.
I'll be getting a third m.2 drive with my icelake build when the samsung 980 series comes out. it will also be running at full speed.
This reminds me of AM3, when amd owners said that dd2 support lingering for years and a lack of ddr3 support was a blessing to customer, thanks to the 'longevity' of that ageing platform it had dated ram, pci, usb and everything else.
Technology moves forwards, with or without you, feel free to sit it out but don't lie to yourself that cutting edge z370/390 boards run m.2 drives at x1 speed when it just false.
And i dare you to use those 3 m.2 slots and post screenshots of your glorious result of 3 m.2 SSD's choking behind 1x4 PCIE 3.0 link. 
Lol how ignorant.
Even my z170 board from over 2 years ago is currently running 2 m.2 drives at full 3.0 4x speed as well as my graphics card at full 3.0 x16 speed.
A 950 pro 512gb and a 2tb 960 pro.
All z370 boards with 3 m.2 drives run them at full speed.
It's so funny to see people with stone age board features making claims about new boards features that are false.
Tell me what software you want me to verify the pci speeds with and I'll post a screenshot with them all in one, just for you my stone age friend.
Here is it, I couldn't have 2 instances of crystal disk info open so I have GPUz, crystal disk info and a crystal disk mark bencmark of the 960 pro all in one, thanks for playing champ.
I'll be getting a third m.2 drive with my icelake build when the samsung 980 series comes out. it will also be running at full speed.
This reminds me of AM3, when amd owners said that dd2 support lingering for years and a lack of ddr3 support was a blessing to customer, thanks to the 'longevity' of that ageing platform it had dated ram, pci, usb and everything else.
Technology moves forwards, with or without you, feel free to sit it out but don't lie to yourself that cutting edge z370/390 boards run m.2 drives at x1 speed when it just false.
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#5492811 Posted on: 11/16/2017 03:52 PM
Not quite true. Do you remember Intel X58 chipset based LGA1366 motherboards: most of us were kickin' quads Core i7-920 and smiilar Nehalem CPUs, later down the road most of these X58 boards got BIOS update for 6-core Westmere generation i7-9xx and Xeon X56xx CPUs. Still running two LGA1366 boards here, both started with "poors man" Core i7-920 C0 and for few years both mobos are running highly OC'ed 6-core Xeons, X5670 & X5675.
Something similar happened with LGA1155 platform: started with Sandy Bridge CPUs, later down the road most of these mobos got update to support Ivy Bridge CPUs.
I agree with Matt and others here about "new" Intel's customer milking politics, every half a year it's like: "...hello folks! We have new CPU to offer for our beloved customers and it needs new chipset.... and of course new socket, what did you expected!?..." ..and it's been that way for how long, almost 5 years?
Every chipset from intel has only been good for one generation for like 15 years. The only way you could get 2 cpus out of it is if you were one of those 'a cheap man pays twice' buyers who buy an i5 and then upgrade to an i7 from the same generation. In the business we call these people idiots....
Not quite true. Do you remember Intel X58 chipset based LGA1366 motherboards: most of us were kickin' quads Core i7-920 and smiilar Nehalem CPUs, later down the road most of these X58 boards got BIOS update for 6-core Westmere generation i7-9xx and Xeon X56xx CPUs. Still running two LGA1366 boards here, both started with "poors man" Core i7-920 C0 and for few years both mobos are running highly OC'ed 6-core Xeons, X5670 & X5675.
Something similar happened with LGA1155 platform: started with Sandy Bridge CPUs, later down the road most of these mobos got update to support Ivy Bridge CPUs.
I agree with Matt and others here about "new" Intel's customer milking politics, every half a year it's like: "...hello folks! We have new CPU to offer for our beloved customers and it needs new chipset.... and of course new socket, what did you expected!?..." ..and it's been that way for how long, almost 5 years?
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Every chipset from intel has only been good for one generation for like 15 years. The only way you could get 2 cpus out of it is if you were one of those 'a cheap man pays twice' buyers who buy an i5 and then upgrade to an i7 from the same generation. In the business we call these people idiots...
Anyone who buyers an intel chipset expecting 2 generations out of it doesn't have any self respect as a consumer and has done no research.
I'm glad for the constant board refreshes, it means the tech is always up to date. Coffee lake motherboards have 3x m.2 slots on almost all of them, that's what I upgrade for more than a cpu.
And i dare you to use those 3 m.2 slots and post screenshots of your glorious result of 3 m.2 SSD's choking behind 1x4 PCIE 3.0 link.