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Intel Z390 motherboard spotted in SiSoft Database
We already talked a little about the fact that Intel would/might be releasing another chipset called Z390 later this year. That is next to Coffee lake 6-core processors on what is to be the Z370 platform. A Z390 motherboard now has surfaced in the SiSoft Sandra database.
Intel has an 8-core 14nm Coffee Lake processor in the works. The information surfaced from an XTU errata log is showing change-log entry that reads out as "[CFL] Added support for 8,2 core,", see below. CFL obviously is short for Coffee Lake.
It would be an interesting move from Intel, as typically they design one desktop processor and base all models off from that one proc. To create an additional processor holding 8-cores is very unusual. If correct, this would be an 8-core/16-threaded part in the mainstream segment, and that would mean serious competition for AMD Ryzen 7.
The new info is derived from videocardz, who spotted the unit in the Sisoft database. it is listed with a 6-core proc (we assume the procs will be backward compatible. The entry comes from SMC (Super Micro). While originally intended for release late 2017, I do expect a launch Q1/Q2 2018 realistically with how incredibly low stock is for Coffee lake processors.
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#5492657 Posted on: 11/16/2017 06:21 AM
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
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#5492670 Posted on: 11/16/2017 07:34 AM
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is it
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is it
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#5492679 Posted on: 11/16/2017 08:12 AM
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is itYes it wasn't just for a change in pins, contrary to popular belief (that this was done at the behest of motherboard manufacturers) this was purely Intel greed at its finest!
bit-tech: So if you wanted and Intel let you, you could make Z270 compatible?
Andrew: Yes, but you also require an upgrade from the ME and a BIOS update. Intel somehow has locked the compatibility.
https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is itYes it wasn't just for a change in pins, contrary to popular belief (that this was done at the behest of motherboard manufacturers) this was purely Intel greed at its finest!
bit-tech: So if you wanted and Intel let you, you could make Z270 compatible?
Andrew: Yes, but you also require an upgrade from the ME and a BIOS update. Intel somehow has locked the compatibility.
https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1
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#5492686 Posted on: 11/16/2017 08:48 AM
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
Every chipset from intel has only been good for one generation for like 15 years. The only way you could get 2 cpus out of it is if you were one of those 'a cheap man pays twice' buyers who buy an i5 and then upgrade to an i7 from the same generation. In the business we call these people idiots...
Anyone who buyers an intel chipset expecting 2 generations out of it doesn't have any self respect as a consumer and has done no research.
I'm glad for the constant board refreshes, it means the tech is always up to date. Coffee lake motherboards have 3x m.2 slots on almost all of them, that's what I upgrade for more than a cpu.
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
Every chipset from intel has only been good for one generation for like 15 years. The only way you could get 2 cpus out of it is if you were one of those 'a cheap man pays twice' buyers who buy an i5 and then upgrade to an i7 from the same generation. In the business we call these people idiots...
Anyone who buyers an intel chipset expecting 2 generations out of it doesn't have any self respect as a consumer and has done no research.
I'm glad for the constant board refreshes, it means the tech is always up to date. Coffee lake motherboards have 3x m.2 slots on almost all of them, that's what I upgrade for more than a cpu.
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