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Intel Z390 chipset to replace Z370 with Z370 going end-of-life
We've talked and discussed everything and anything Z390 over the past few months now. Basically, the two chipsets are really similar but would bring support for 8-core Coffee lake processors. Word out now however is that Intel might be simply replacing Z270 with Z390.
Initially, we all expected Z390 to exists next to Z370 and if we can believe a few newly leaked roadmaps, Intel is planning to phase out the Z370 chipset this quarter with Z390. Earlier on, we already posted a news item pretty much indicating this new rumor, The Z370 to get rebranded as Z390. Of course, take the news with a grain of salt.
But in essence, the Z390 chipset would remain the same as the Z370 chipset, manufacturers who want to offer the support that the chipset originally promised, will have to revert and do this in a more traditional way: with external controllers such as those from Asmedia, reported benchlife.
Z390 has been discussed a lot, it should be a chipset intended for 8-core Coffee Lake CPUs, but these are not expected to launch anytime soon. Z390 will get an LGA1151 socket using the traditional DMI 3.0 chipset-bus (which basically is an x4 PCIe link lane up/downlink. Similar to the Z370 chipset, it'll have 24 PCI-Express gen 3.0 lanes. Also similar is storage at six SATA 6 Gbps ports with AHCI and RAID support; and up to three 32 Gbps M.2/U.2 connectors. LAN remains the same as well. 1 GbE, Intel recommends their Wireless-AC 9560 card for the motherboard manufacturers to pair this chipset with for 802.11ac and Bluetooth 5.
Look and compare below, the two official chipset block diagrams.
Above Intel Z390 as leaked earlier at Intel
Above (for comparison) Z370 - the differences really one are USB 3.1 gen2 and Intel Wireless-AC (CNVi)
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#5566725 Posted on: 07/20/2018 09:01 PM
they could and they apparently are releasing BIOS updates: https://www.techpowerup.com/246038/intel-z370-chipset-motherboards-get-8-core-cpu-compatibility-bios-updates
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They really couldn't have just done a BIOS update for Z370?
they could and they apparently are releasing BIOS updates: https://www.techpowerup.com/246038/intel-z370-chipset-motherboards-get-8-core-cpu-compatibility-bios-updates
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#5566726 Posted on: 07/20/2018 09:02 PM
I have no idea what that statement means. You do know if partners stop offering motherboards based on Z370 and shift to Z390 that your system doesn't somehow stop working, right? Intel releasing a new chipset doesn't mean someone comes and rips the Z370 out of your system thus ending its life. It will continue on working happily for years. If you mean there is something newer that is maybe slightly more capable or even equally capable around then it is like just about every piece of technology around. New TVs, cars, coffee makers, washers, phones, etc appear all the time. There wouldn't be many companies left if they only released a new product every 3 or 4 years.
Also @Hilbert, the title infers Z390 will replace Z370 then it says Z270 in the first paragraph.
What i meant its crystal clear my friend. I had enough with Intel policies and buying every new generation of processors a new mobo just because intel wants to stole my money despite the pricing. I never said anything different or anything mentioned above in your post.
I have no idea what that statement means. You do know if partners stop offering motherboards based on Z370 and shift to Z390 that your system doesn't somehow stop working, right? Intel releasing a new chipset doesn't mean someone comes and rips the Z370 out of your system thus ending its life. It will continue on working happily for years. If you mean there is something newer that is maybe slightly more capable or even equally capable around then it is like just about every piece of technology around. New TVs, cars, coffee makers, washers, phones, etc appear all the time. There wouldn't be many companies left if they only released a new product every 3 or 4 years.
Also @Hilbert, the title infers Z390 will replace Z370 then it says Z270 in the first paragraph.
What i meant its crystal clear my friend. I had enough with Intel policies and buying every new generation of processors a new mobo just because intel wants to stole my money despite the pricing. I never said anything different or anything mentioned above in your post.
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#5566740 Posted on: 07/20/2018 10:25 PM
Hardly a surprise the 6 core processors and the Z370 platform was rushed to market to counter the AMD Ryzen, the Z370 could not be validated for older processors as this would have delayed their release and give Ryzen more time on the market so Intels Market share would decline and the 8 core CPU's were not ready so things like phase requirements was not available. Thats not to say the Z370 from the likes of ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI that have huge amounts of phases could not support the 8 cores but since Intel reference motherboard can not supply the power it's not likely Intel will provide the ODM the applicable BIOS to allow support for them and thus even the high end Z370's may not be capable of supporting the 8 cores even if technically they could.
The 6 core processors and Z370 platform was from a panicking Intel to get something to market to compete.
Hardly a surprise the 6 core processors and the Z370 platform was rushed to market to counter the AMD Ryzen, the Z370 could not be validated for older processors as this would have delayed their release and give Ryzen more time on the market so Intels Market share would decline and the 8 core CPU's were not ready so things like phase requirements was not available. Thats not to say the Z370 from the likes of ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI that have huge amounts of phases could not support the 8 cores but since Intel reference motherboard can not supply the power it's not likely Intel will provide the ODM the applicable BIOS to allow support for them and thus even the high end Z370's may not be capable of supporting the 8 cores even if technically they could.
The 6 core processors and Z370 platform was from a panicking Intel to get something to market to compete.
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#5566767 Posted on: 07/21/2018 01:13 AM
How many chipsets use the 1151 now, no plans to change my delidded 7700k or my Msi z270 Camo Squad.
How many chipsets use the 1151 now, no plans to change my delidded 7700k or my Msi z270 Camo Squad.
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My concern would be that manufacturers will neglect a board they no longer offer, rolling out BIOS slower or not at all.