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Intel Xeon W-3175X 28-core Processor Released at $2,999
Starting today Intel offers their Xeon W-3175X processor, an unlocked 28-core workstation built for select, highly-threaded and computing-intensive applications such as architectural and industrial design and professional content creation.
Built for handling heavily threaded applications and tasks, the Intel Xeon W-3175X processor delivers uncompromising single- and all-core world-class performance for the most advanced professional creators and their demanding workloads. With the most cores and threads, CPU PCIe lanes, and memory capacity of any Intel desktop processor, the Intel Xeon W-3175X processor has the features that matter for massive mega-tasking projects such as film editing and 3D rendering. Other key features and capabilities:
- Intel Mesh Architecture, which delivers low latency and high data bandwidth between CPU cores, cache, memory and I/O while increasing the number of cores per processor - a critical need for the demanding, highly-threaded workloads of creators and experts.
- Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, a precision toolset that helps experienced overclockers optimize their experience with unlocked processors.
- Intel Extreme Memory Profile, which simplifies the overclocking experience by removing the guesswork of memory overclocking.
- Intel Advanced Vector Extensions 512 (Intel AVX-512) ratio offset and memory controller trim voltage control that allows for optimization of overclocking frequencies regardless of SSE or AVX workloads, and allow maximization of memory overclocking.
- Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 that delivers frequencies up to 4.3 GHz.
- Up to 68 platform PCIe lanes, 38.5 MB Intel Smart Cache, 6-channel DDR4 memory support with up to 512 GB at 2666 MHz, and ECC and standard RAS support power peripherals and high-speed tools.
- Intel C621 chipset based systems designed to support the Intel Xeon W-3175X processor allow professional content creators to achieve a new level of performance.
- Asetek 690LX-PN all-in-one liquid cooler, a custom created solution sold separately by Asetek, helps ensure the processor runs smoothly at both stock settings and while overclocking.
- With the Intel Xeon W-3175 processor, build the "Infiltrator Demo" in Unreal Engine up to 1.52x faster compared with the Intel Core i9-9980XE processor.
The Intel Xeon W-3175X processor is available from system integrators that develop purpose-built desktop workstations.
Intel Xeon W-3175X:
- Base Clock Speed (GHz): 3.10
- Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 Maximum Single Core Turbo Frequency (GHz): 4.3
- Cores/Threads: 28/56
- TDP: 255W
- Intel Smart Cache: 38.5 MB
- Unlocked: Yes
- Platform PCI-E Lanes: Up to 68
- Memory Support: Six Channels, DDR4-2666
- Standard RAS Support: Yes
- ECC Support: Yes
- RCP Pricing (USD 1K): $2,999 (per unit in 1000-unit tray quantities)
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#5633456 Posted on: 01/30/2019 06:57 PM
Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad
Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad
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#5633457 Posted on: 01/30/2019 07:00 PM
Yeah that is about 1/2 the price I was expecting. Course if you wait 6 months you can get a thread ripper that is faster for about 1/3 the price.
That's pretty cheap for Intel.
Yeah that is about 1/2 the price I was expecting. Course if you wait 6 months you can get a thread ripper that is faster for about 1/3 the price.
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#5633460 Posted on: 01/30/2019 07:09 PM
$53 duck bones a thread seems like a bad deal.
$53 duck bones a thread seems like a bad deal.
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#5633484 Posted on: 01/30/2019 07:53 PM
That's $2999 per unit if you order 1000 units.....i am sure they cost a lot more individually. Still, i bet it really screams.
That's $2999 per unit if you order 1000 units.....i am sure they cost a lot more individually. Still, i bet it really screams.
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#5633488 Posted on: 01/30/2019 07:59 PM
So this is the "5ghz" all cores cpu they showed before in that freezer just to underwhelm AMD TR? Hah.
So this is the "5ghz" all cores cpu they showed before in that freezer just to underwhelm AMD TR? Hah.
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#5633496 Posted on: 01/30/2019 08:13 PM
Proper cooling is not included.
So this is the "5ghz" all cores cpu they showed before in that freezer just to underwhelm AMD TR? Hah.
Proper cooling is not included.
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#5633504 Posted on: 01/30/2019 08:26 PM
That's pretty cheap for Intel.
It's only that "cheap" if you buy them in 1000-unit orders, unless i'm reading something wrong here.
Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad
2990 is almost half the price at 1000 unit order prices for the 3175, so the 3175 being faster in some scenarios, i'd kinda hope so. This could be due to the 6-channel ram vs the 4-channel ram, among other differences between platforms.
As to the gaming thing, i don't understand why that is even being tested on these processors, these are not gaming processors. That being said, it's already known that threadripper processors don't do well at gaming and some software (i forget what it's called, was posted in this forum a little while ago) help threadripper gaming performance quite a bit in some scenarios.
After watching a bit of that review it seems that where the 3175x beats the 2990 pretty significantly, the 9900k usually beats the 2990 as well, and all that tells me is that it's a poorly done benchmark since it obviously is favoring frequency over cores. Remember, the 2990 all-core boost is 3.4Ghz, whereas the 3175x all-core boost is 3.8Ghz, so in something that favors frequencies but also "can" deal with more then 8-cores, the 3175 will ofcourse shine.
This is to be expected.
That's pretty cheap for Intel.
It's only that "cheap" if you buy them in 1000-unit orders, unless i'm reading something wrong here.
Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad
2990 is almost half the price at 1000 unit order prices for the 3175, so the 3175 being faster in some scenarios, i'd kinda hope so. This could be due to the 6-channel ram vs the 4-channel ram, among other differences between platforms.
As to the gaming thing, i don't understand why that is even being tested on these processors, these are not gaming processors. That being said, it's already known that threadripper processors don't do well at gaming and some software (i forget what it's called, was posted in this forum a little while ago) help threadripper gaming performance quite a bit in some scenarios.
After watching a bit of that review it seems that where the 3175x beats the 2990 pretty significantly, the 9900k usually beats the 2990 as well, and all that tells me is that it's a poorly done benchmark since it obviously is favoring frequency over cores. Remember, the 2990 all-core boost is 3.4Ghz, whereas the 3175x all-core boost is 3.8Ghz, so in something that favors frequencies but also "can" deal with more then 8-cores, the 3175 will ofcourse shine.
This is to be expected.
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#5633510 Posted on: 01/30/2019 08:38 PM
Thats how prices are always listed for non-consumer parts (ie. basically a supplier price list). A server-focused supplier/retailed could order 1000 and sell them off.
It's only that "cheap" if you buy them in 1000-unit orders, unless i'm reading something wrong here.
Thats how prices are always listed for non-consumer parts (ie. basically a supplier price list). A server-focused supplier/retailed could order 1000 and sell them off.
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#5633519 Posted on: 01/30/2019 08:54 PM
meh if you can afford to buy 1000 of them for 3 grand a pop and then you marked up and charge nearly 5 grand each for them inc VAT. 4700 $ after VAT seems to be the known price.
meh if you can afford to buy 1000 of them for 3 grand a pop and then you marked up and charge nearly 5 grand each for them inc VAT. 4700 $ after VAT seems to be the known price.
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#5633522 Posted on: 01/30/2019 09:04 PM
Have anyone seen linux benchmarks, the 32 core threadripper seams to have some windows problems.
Have anyone seen linux benchmarks, the 32 core threadripper seams to have some windows problems.
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#5633530 Posted on: 01/30/2019 09:34 PM
Wow, overclocking option with something that is already at 255w.
Wow, overclocking option with something that is already at 255w.
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#5633531 Posted on: 01/30/2019 09:36 PM
Yeah, Wendell from L1Techs / L1Linux had found a solution to the problem plaguing TR 2990WX's multithreading performance, unlocked significantly more perf out of the chip.
the problem with this is that regular users won't be aware of it - and that ultimately negates the point. From an OOTB perspective that perf can't be counted... yet!
Hopefully Microsoft addresses the OS side of the problem and lets TR run better
Have anyone seen linux benchmarks, the 32 core threadripper seams to have some windows problems.
Yeah, Wendell from L1Techs / L1Linux had found a solution to the problem plaguing TR 2990WX's multithreading performance, unlocked significantly more perf out of the chip.
the problem with this is that regular users won't be aware of it - and that ultimately negates the point. From an OOTB perspective that perf can't be counted... yet!
Hopefully Microsoft addresses the OS side of the problem and lets TR run better
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#5633537 Posted on: 01/30/2019 10:04 PM
Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad
I like GN but they (and most reviewers) desperately need to drop the 1080p benchmarks, some of those in the GN video were even 1080p at medium settings. No offense is meant to anyone gaming on older hardware, but it is doubtful that anybody spending several thousand on a new system is playing at 1080p. The few people I know with a high refresh Gsync or Freesync even play at 1440p+. There is little appreciable difference between most recent, high-end CPUs when gaming @ 4K.
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That being said, it's already known that threadripper processors don't do well at gaming and some software (i forget what it's called, was posted in this forum a little while ago) help threadripper gaming performance quite a bit in some scenarios.
After watching a bit of that review it seems that where the 3175x beats the 2990 pretty significantly, the 9900k usually beats the 2990 as well, and all that tells me is that it's a poorly done benchmark since it obviously is favoring frequency over cores. Remember, the 2990 all-core boost is 3.4Ghz, whereas the 3175x all-core boost is 3.8Ghz, so in something that favors frequencies but also "can" deal with more then 8-cores, the 3175 will ofcourse shine.
This is to be expected.
You're referring to the NUMA fix for Windows scheduler - here's a link for anyone interested: https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/ For any 2990/2970 owners, that should bring performance up to the 2950X for any tasks which were slow due to Windows scheduler problems (some games as well).
Just saw this review earlier. Seems to be a lot faster than AMD 2990 in some scenarios. Also does a lot better in games. Not sure how amd botched the gaming so bad
I like GN but they (and most reviewers) desperately need to drop the 1080p benchmarks, some of those in the GN video were even 1080p at medium settings. No offense is meant to anyone gaming on older hardware, but it is doubtful that anybody spending several thousand on a new system is playing at 1080p. The few people I know with a high refresh Gsync or Freesync even play at 1440p+. There is little appreciable difference between most recent, high-end CPUs when gaming @ 4K.
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That being said, it's already known that threadripper processors don't do well at gaming and some software (i forget what it's called, was posted in this forum a little while ago) help threadripper gaming performance quite a bit in some scenarios.
After watching a bit of that review it seems that where the 3175x beats the 2990 pretty significantly, the 9900k usually beats the 2990 as well, and all that tells me is that it's a poorly done benchmark since it obviously is favoring frequency over cores. Remember, the 2990 all-core boost is 3.4Ghz, whereas the 3175x all-core boost is 3.8Ghz, so in something that favors frequencies but also "can" deal with more then 8-cores, the 3175 will ofcourse shine.
This is to be expected.
You're referring to the NUMA fix for Windows scheduler - here's a link for anyone interested: https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/ For any 2990/2970 owners, that should bring performance up to the 2950X for any tasks which were slow due to Windows scheduler problems (some games as well).
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#5633539 Posted on: 01/30/2019 10:05 PM
It's hard to know whether the price of the chip is because it has low demand and therefore high price, or whether intel is just price gouging an industry where the data centre is...
It's hard to know whether the price of the chip is because it has low demand and therefore high price, or whether intel is just price gouging an industry where the data centre is...
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That's pretty cheap for Intel.