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Intel Xeon Processor Supporting Up to 56 Cores & 12 Channels Memory
In an aim to fight with AMD in the datacenter Intel announced Cascade Lake-AP processors, which have up-to 56 cores and it is the successor "Skylake-SP" and "Xeon scalable processors" released in 2017.
The supporting chipset remains the Intel C620 with CPU socket P (LGA3647). In addition to supporting up to DDR4-2, 933 MHz memory, it has become possible to implement up to 24 or 36 channels of system memory (that is up to 12 channels per CPU), which is doubled now. In addition, it supports the newly developed non-volatile memory "Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory".
The top of the line and bill is the "Xeon Platinum 9200" series with the "Xeon Platinum 9282" with up to 56 cores. The 56-core "Cascade Lake" is a multi-chip module (MCM) based on two 28-core dies each holding a 6-channel DDR4 memory interface. That results in 12-channels per processor package. it is only available as a BGA package mounted directly on the motherboard. Furthermore, up to 28 cores "is the Xeon Platinum 8200" series, up to 24 cores the "Xeon Gold 6200/5200" series, up to 16 cores "Xeon Silver 4200" series, 6 cores "Xeon Bronze 3204" lineup.
Prices for the SKUs have not been announced and please do expect an up-to 400 Watt TDP for that one. AMD will release its Epyc chips with 64 cores in the summer of 2019.
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#5656558 Posted on: 04/03/2019 09:27 AM
400watts TDP
Holy moly
400watts TDP
Holy moly
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#5656559 Posted on: 04/03/2019 09:31 AM
Does anyone smell glue on those top chips?
Does anyone smell glue on those top chips?
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#5656565 Posted on: 04/03/2019 09:36 AM
Noooo, that's so lame. And so AMD...
I wonder how it will do against AMD's 64C/128T in terms of performance per watt.
Does anyone smell glue on those top chips?
Noooo, that's so lame. And so AMD...
I wonder how it will do against AMD's 64C/128T in terms of performance per watt.
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#5656569 Posted on: 04/03/2019 09:47 AM
There goes Intel glueing cores together after they criticized AMD for it.
There goes Intel glueing cores together after they criticized AMD for it.
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#5656572 Posted on: 04/03/2019 10:05 AM
It doesn't look like Intel's MCM is yet quite up to AMD's standards. But I guess that's natural seeing how they are hastily trying to follow in AMD's footsteps. It'll take them some more time.
It doesn't look like Intel's MCM is yet quite up to AMD's standards. But I guess that's natural seeing how they are hastily trying to follow in AMD's footsteps. It'll take them some more time.
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#5656576 Posted on: 04/03/2019 10:12 AM
"Innovation Day" ... OK...
On CPU side- Most of them are Tick&Tock refresh-right?, and you can tell by the ppl on stage how confident they felt and looked , sad.
Good part was the Optane DDR4 memory, hope they will come to HEDT/Desktop and we could have 64GB~256GB "RamDisk"
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"Innovation Day" ... OK...
On CPU side- Most of them are Tick&Tock refresh-right?, and you can tell by the ppl on stage how confident they felt and looked , sad.
Good part was the Optane DDR4 memory, hope they will come to HEDT/Desktop and we could have 64GB~256GB "RamDisk"
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#5656589 Posted on: 04/03/2019 11:39 AM
just for info: Intel was the 1st to do it, and AMD were bashing Intel to do it, then AMD do it and Intel use the exact same argument used against the company to bash AMD.
In the end AMD or Intel, Intel or AMD... Same way of working...
There goes Intel glueing cores together after they criticized AMD for it.
just for info: Intel was the 1st to do it, and AMD were bashing Intel to do it, then AMD do it and Intel use the exact same argument used against the company to bash AMD.
In the end AMD or Intel, Intel or AMD... Same way of working...
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#5656590 Posted on: 04/03/2019 11:49 AM
The tic/toc logic is dead now (or the clock doesn't work well: tic tic toc toc toc tic coocoo coocoo ).
It's just a new gen and many update (can be refresh or just small change).
AMD do the same way.
On CPU side- Most of them are Tick&Tock refresh-right?, and you can tell by the ppl on stage how confident they felt and looked , sad.
The tic/toc logic is dead now (or the clock doesn't work well: tic tic toc toc toc tic coocoo coocoo
).It's just a new gen and many update (can be refresh or just small change).
AMD do the same way.
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#5656602 Posted on: 04/03/2019 12:30 PM
Look-Can you guess the price of Xeon Platinum 8256?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192467/intel-xeon-platinum-8256-processor-16-5m-cache-3-80-ghz.html
Look-Can you guess the price of Xeon Platinum 8256?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192467/intel-xeon-platinum-8256-processor-16-5m-cache-3-80-ghz.html
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#5656609 Posted on: 04/03/2019 01:03 PM
Look-Can you guess the price of Xeon Platinum 8256?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192467/intel-xeon-platinum-8256-processor-16-5m-cache-3-80-ghz.html
$7007.00 .....holy sheepshit Batman! .....Dam!
Look-Can you guess the price of Xeon Platinum 8256?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192467/intel-xeon-platinum-8256-processor-16-5m-cache-3-80-ghz.html
$7007.00 .....holy sheepshit Batman! .....Dam!
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#5656611 Posted on: 04/03/2019 01:15 PM
$7000 for a quad core, only Intel can do this, pre-order now!
I hope they didn't stacked 2 cores on top of another 2 cores just like the 56C/112T model.
$7000 for a quad core, only Intel can do this, pre-order now!
I hope they didn't stacked 2 cores on top of another 2 cores just like the 56C/112T model.
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#5656628 Posted on: 04/03/2019 02:04 PM
just for info: Intel was the 1st to do it, and AMD were bashing Intel to do it, then AMD do it and Intel use the exact same argument used against the company to bash AMD.
In the end AMD or Intel, Intel or AMD... Same way of working...
Intel did original gluing. AMD did pretty advanced design with shared parts.
just for info: Intel was the 1st to do it, and AMD were bashing Intel to do it, then AMD do it and Intel use the exact same argument used against the company to bash AMD.
In the end AMD or Intel, Intel or AMD... Same way of working...
Intel did original gluing. AMD did pretty advanced design with shared parts.
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#5656658 Posted on: 04/03/2019 03:21 PM
I love how AMD has Intel on its heels. The market needs AMD to become a proper CPU competitor in the datacenter. Intel's MCM'ing is such an ugly solution compared to AMD's Infinity fabric and chiplet approach. Intel is working on AgileX on a FPGA which is actually a bit more advanced approach than AMD's but they are way behind AMD in this front. Also, the Intel tax AMD is speaking about is very real like some posters noticed a $7,000 4-core Xeon part makes you roll your eyes even for a server part. AMD is about to mop up in the server space if what they stated about doubling the cores in the same power envelope stays true. AMD's 32 core EPYC 7601 is pulling 177 what's so their 65 core part should be about the same wattage versus Intels 400 watt 56 core part.
I love how AMD has Intel on its heels. The market needs AMD to become a proper CPU competitor in the datacenter. Intel's MCM'ing is such an ugly solution compared to AMD's Infinity fabric and chiplet approach. Intel is working on AgileX on a FPGA which is actually a bit more advanced approach than AMD's but they are way behind AMD in this front. Also, the Intel tax AMD is speaking about is very real like some posters noticed a $7,000 4-core Xeon part makes you roll your eyes even for a server part. AMD is about to mop up in the server space if what they stated about doubling the cores in the same power envelope stays true. AMD's 32 core EPYC 7601 is pulling 177 what's so their 65 core part should be about the same wattage versus Intels 400 watt 56 core part.
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#5656661 Posted on: 04/03/2019 03:22 PM
Noooo, that's so lame. And so AMD...
I wonder how it will do against AMD's 64C/128T in terms of performance per watt.
Let's not forget that AMD also supports dual-socket motherboards. 128c/256t for x86 in a single U1 server for what will likely be nearly half the price is going to be a major challenge for Intel to deal with.
Right now, Intel's saving grace is the fact that their 56-core servers perform better on average (than a dual Epyc 7601), despite having fewer cores. I think this is largely due to how AMD's memory channels are divided, with the whole UMA/NUMA situation. If AMD can get that sorted out with their 64 core Epycs, they've got an all-around winner.
Noooo, that's so lame. And so AMD...
I wonder how it will do against AMD's 64C/128T in terms of performance per watt.
Let's not forget that AMD also supports dual-socket motherboards. 128c/256t for x86 in a single U1 server for what will likely be nearly half the price is going to be a major challenge for Intel to deal with.
Right now, Intel's saving grace is the fact that their 56-core servers perform better on average (than a dual Epyc 7601), despite having fewer cores. I think this is largely due to how AMD's memory channels are divided, with the whole UMA/NUMA situation. If AMD can get that sorted out with their 64 core Epycs, they've got an all-around winner.
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It's actually amazing that Intel finds a way to fit all those cores with 14nm shrink.