Intel Xe Discrete Graphics based on 7nm - has HBM and carries codenamed Ponte Vecchio

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 11/14/2019 08:09 AM | source: | 28 comment(s)

Intel has released a bit of info on their Xe line of GPUs, and that info is rather limited. First off, the product will be fabbed at a 7nm node. Secondly, and yeah think of this what you will, it's going to use HBM graphics memory, which is rather complicated and expensive to use, fabricate and buy.

It, however, is likely that the enterprise parts will get some form of HBM graphics memory, and the consumer parts some sort of GDDR6 kind of graphics memory. As history has proven, for consumer parts that has been problemsome.

Interesting other news is that Intel has shared the codename for Xe, the GPU is codenamed Ponte Vecchio -- an old stone bridge in Florence, Italy. Why did I highlight that bridge part? Well, what about the rumor of a PCIe 5.0-based Compute Express Link Interconnect. That's a rather fast way of bridging a CPU with GPUs. Ponte Vecchio GPU would be using Foveros packaging technology and CLX (Compute Express Link) interconnects. Then HBM. It was also mentioned that Ponte Vecchio will feature high double-precision FP throughput.

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icedman
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#5731130 Posted on: 11/14/2019 09:16 AM

I'm surprised they're going with hbm on this they must have high confidence that sales will make up for the extra cost or like past AMD cards it requires it due to another constraint

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#5731131 Posted on: 11/14/2019 09:19 AM

Smells like a high-price computing GPU...

anticupidon
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#5731139 Posted on: 11/14/2019 09:52 AM

No more. Something Lake?
Oh my...

sverek
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#5731144 Posted on: 11/14/2019 09:59 AM

No more. Something Lake?
Oh my...
Intel had enough with draining its swamps.

Punchline explanation below:
draining its swamps = fixing security holes in lakes CPU series (with a bit of political spice!)

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#5731167 Posted on: 11/14/2019 11:21 AM

I'm surprised they're going with hbm on this they must have high confidence that sales will make up for the extra cost or like past AMD cards it requires it due to another constraint

It's not surprising at all as long as it's only the professional, server/super computer aimed product. That's where Nvidia used HBM as well. It's only AMD that decided to use it in consumer parts, and it didn't really help them against the competition. But then again, AMD was an HBM developer, so it makes some sense they were (too) eager to use it.

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