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Intel Xe DG2 could have the performance level of an RTX 3070
Intel has so far only used its new "Xe" graphics in an integrated form in the "Tiger Lake" ultra-mobile CPUs , but now Intel boss Bob Swan said a thing or two about the next thing.
As part of the announcement of the quarterly figures, Intel also confirmed that they are now shipping the first DG1 GPUs. The cards named Iris Xe Max are dedicated cards, but will probably only appear sporadically in notebooks for the time being.
News about the DG2 is almost more interesting. It should be based on Xe HPG, where HPG stands for high-performance gaming. And that GPU should now be manufactured and tuned to market readiness in Intel's laboratories. There would then be dedicated graphics cards for gamers who will hopefully also be competitive with the two competitors.
DG2 should arrive by the end of next year. Although Intel does not give specific data as to where they are pointing, and only say that they point to the "enthusiast segment" and "high performance", rumors have already been commissioned to say that the new Intel card would match the performance of an RTX 3070.
Rumor has it that Intel's new dedicated card performing like an RTX 3070, but that could be way too optimistic. Also according to rumors, the Xe DG2 should be manufactured with the 6nm process and will be accompanied by 16GB of GDDR6 memory. But, this all is highly speculative.
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#5846633 Posted on: 10/26/2020 03:56 PM
Intel and low prices is not expected from my point of view.
if they release next year a 3070 equivalent, AMD and NVidia will have their 4050/4060 (or 7600/7700 AMD) ready for more power and same price.
but for now, there is a lot of rumors around the Intel GPU cards, some of them saying that the expected performance is not here and they have a lot of problems. up to the point they'll cancel it.
and based on the track record of intel on the past years... having big shift from them is a normal process.
so everything is possible... maybe they'll be able to deliver a gpu... maybe not.
Intel and low prices is not expected from my point of view.
if they release next year a 3070 equivalent, AMD and NVidia will have their 4050/4060 (or 7600/7700 AMD) ready for more power and same price.
but for now, there is a lot of rumors around the Intel GPU cards, some of them saying that the expected performance is not here and they have a lot of problems. up to the point they'll cancel it.
and based on the track record of intel on the past years... having big shift from them is a normal process.
so everything is possible... maybe they'll be able to deliver a gpu... maybe not.
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#5846636 Posted on: 10/26/2020 04:07 PM
There are always customers for video cards at any time. If your card goes bust, you don´t sit down waiting for the next gen to be released, do you?
Anyway releasing something as good as the 3070 would be quite the achievement for Intel, and i can´t see them pulling this one this good, but i could be wrong of course.
So true. But maybe you can rise up to the challenge so you can tell all the other gurus if the path is safe or not...
Be brave!!!
If Intel produce a card which is optimistically as fast as a 3070 by the end of next year who will be left to buy it?
There are always customers for video cards at any time. If your card goes bust, you don´t sit down waiting for the next gen to be released, do you?
Anyway releasing something as good as the 3070 would be quite the achievement for Intel, and i can´t see them pulling this one this good, but i could be wrong of course.
Only a brave soul would be an early adopter of Intels first discrete GPU. We would have to see how good driver support is for an extended period (year at least) to get a sense of product worthiness or not.
So true. But maybe you can rise up to the challenge so you can tell all the other gurus if the path is safe or not...
Be brave!!!
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#5846648 Posted on: 10/26/2020 04:32 PM
this is good news if true. after all, it would be good to have more competition, and other choices rather than only amd or nvida each year.
this is good news if true. after all, it would be good to have more competition, and other choices rather than only amd or nvida each year.
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#5846654 Posted on: 10/26/2020 04:56 PM
Wake me up if or when this comes true. I still don't see Intel on the GPU market at all. Integrated and discrete GPUs are on a whole different ball park.
Wake me up if or when this comes true. I still don't see Intel on the GPU market at all. Integrated and discrete GPUs are on a whole different ball park.
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I'm surprised nobody has pointed out that we're speculating the performance of a GPU that hasn't been released with another GPU whose performance we have to speculate because it too hasn't been released....
Anyway, I've seen benchmarks of the mobile Xe GPU and it's actually an impressive leap forward. I don't know all the technical details to compare it with their previous generation stuff, but in some cases it delivers double the performance under the same power consumption (actual measured power consumption, as opposed to Intel's meaningless TDP). Despite this though, AMD's Vega on their mobile APUs are still better, which doesn't bode well for Xe.
Have you not bought any Intel product besides a CPU? Their prices are perfectly reasonable for their other products. They're practically never budget options, but the point is, Intel does make competitively-priced products. They know they're out of their realm entering the GPU market, so they will have competitive prices if they expect success.