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Intel Xe DG2 could have the performance level of an RTX 3070
Intel has so far only used its new "Xe" graphics in an integrated form in the "Tiger Lake" ultra-mobile CPUs , but now Intel boss Bob Swan said a thing or two about the next thing.
As part of the announcement of the quarterly figures, Intel also confirmed that they are now shipping the first DG1 GPUs. The cards named Iris Xe Max are dedicated cards, but will probably only appear sporadically in notebooks for the time being.
News about the DG2 is almost more interesting. It should be based on Xe HPG, where HPG stands for high-performance gaming. And that GPU should now be manufactured and tuned to market readiness in Intel's laboratories. There would then be dedicated graphics cards for gamers who will hopefully also be competitive with the two competitors.
DG2 should arrive by the end of next year. Although Intel does not give specific data as to where they are pointing, and only say that they point to the "enthusiast segment" and "high performance", rumors have already been commissioned to say that the new Intel card would match the performance of an RTX 3070.
Rumor has it that Intel's new dedicated card performing like an RTX 3070, but that could be way too optimistic. Also according to rumors, the Xe DG2 should be manufactured with the 6nm process and will be accompanied by 16GB of GDDR6 memory. But, this all is highly speculative.
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#5846531 Posted on: 10/26/2020 10:37 AM
When I purchased a top of the top range video card it was a little over 1000 dollars, now the top of the top is a little over 3000, thanks miners..
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When I purchased a top of the top range video card it was a little over 1000 dollars, now the top of the top is a little over 3000, thanks miners..
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#5846532 Posted on: 10/26/2020 10:38 AM
Significantly cheaper?
Wake up bro, graphics cards have been getting more and more expensive every single year.
Lower production costs means higher margins, not cheaper products.
3080 was supposed to be cheaper than 2080 yet it costs $100-$200 more in stores where i live.
You forget few points. Next year we have 5nm EUV from AMD and MCM. That means something like the 3080/3090 would cost sub $300 with a fraction of the cost to manufacture.
Nvidia sticks to 2021 for Hopper, will have 7nm MCM gpus also, which again will be significant cheaper than current gen.
Intel will be like delivering Haswell-E 8 core, to combat Zen 3 Threadripper.
My argument is still valid , there is alot alot of people on older hardware but just new gpus became to expensive , market urgently needs fast and cheap gpus available . For global market RTX3070-3080 changes nothing because low availability and price is good for 1% of gamers ( probably less than 1% correct me).
Without mass availably of cheap/fast GPUs like GTX1060 was , games cant progress - maybe now it will change because of new consoles , but low-mid range PC is in stagnation for 3 years...
Significantly cheaper?
Wake up bro, graphics cards have been getting more and more expensive every single year.
Lower production costs means higher margins, not cheaper products.
3080 was supposed to be cheaper than 2080 yet it costs $100-$200 more in stores where i live.
You forget few points. Next year we have 5nm EUV from AMD and MCM. That means something like the 3080/3090 would cost sub $300 with a fraction of the cost to manufacture.
Nvidia sticks to 2021 for Hopper, will have 7nm MCM gpus also, which again will be significant cheaper than current gen.
Intel will be like delivering Haswell-E 8 core, to combat Zen 3 Threadripper.
My argument is still valid , there is alot alot of people on older hardware but just new gpus became to expensive , market urgently needs fast and cheap gpus available . For global market RTX3070-3080 changes nothing because low availability and price is good for 1% of gamers ( probably less than 1% correct me).
Without mass availably of cheap/fast GPUs like GTX1060 was , games cant progress - maybe now it will change because of new consoles , but low-mid range PC is in stagnation for 3 years...
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#5846540 Posted on: 10/26/2020 11:01 AM
Millions of people. 200$ is where the game is , not RTX 3080 level . 1080p + 150-200$ card with performance of 2070 - is what consumers need.
Only small % has money and willing to pay for 3080 level and they dont even need it.
Many people here think that market is at the top of the charts ( maybe margins on high end yes) but actually it is at the bottom-middle of the charts.
AMD and Nvidia already have $150-200 cards more than capable of 1080p gaming available today, you don't need RTX 2070 performance to game at 1080p.
Millions of people. 200$ is where the game is , not RTX 3080 level . 1080p + 150-200$ card with performance of 2070 - is what consumers need.
Only small % has money and willing to pay for 3080 level and they dont even need it.
Many people here think that market is at the top of the charts ( maybe margins on high end yes) but actually it is at the bottom-middle of the charts.
AMD and Nvidia already have $150-200 cards more than capable of 1080p gaming available today, you don't need RTX 2070 performance to game at 1080p.
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#5846544 Posted on: 10/26/2020 11:05 AM
There was already a lot of speculation last year about Intel's discrete desktop gpu. I said then that I highly doubt we'd see it come out this year. To now say it's coming out end of next year, well, it feels like Larrabee 2. Which basically never came out.
There was already a lot of speculation last year about Intel's discrete desktop gpu. I said then that I highly doubt we'd see it come out this year. To now say it's coming out end of next year, well, it feels like Larrabee 2. Which basically never came out.
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You forget few points. Next year we have 5nm EUV from AMD and MCM. That means something like the 3080/3090 would cost sub $300 with a fraction of the cost to manufacture.
Nvidia sticks to 2021 for Hopper, will have 7nm MCM gpus also, which again will be significant cheaper than current gen.
Significantly cheaper?
Wake up bro, graphics cards have been getting more and more expensive every single year.
Lower production costs means higher margins, not cheaper products.
3080 was supposed to be cheaper than 2080 yet it costs $100-$200 more in stores where i live.