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Intel Xe based Discrete GPU shown with Destiny 2
Intel yesterday also had its keynote, and as a bit of a surprise showed gameplay from Destiny 2 on its first Xe based GPU. However, there were no technical details about the DG1 chip shared.
Intel wants to get involved in the market for dedicated graphics cards and battle with AMD and Nvidia on a broad front. Recently, however, little good was heard from the Xe GPUs. The efficiency was reported to be very low compared to the competition and the driver should also take a lot of time to improve. At CES 2020, Intel responded to the negative headlines and presented the first operational Xe graphics unit, it however was a mobile part.
Intel's DG1 (Discrete Graphics 1) is not a graphics card for desktop PCs, but a dedicated graphics chip for notebooks and mobile devices. Intel Vice President Lisa M. Pearce also did not show the chip itself, but instead showed rendered gameplay from Destiny 2. The loot shooter seems to run reasonably smoothly, but details on resolution and detail settings were not made. In addition, there is no fps display in the short video, which is why a final assessment is not possible.
The chip has been associated with notebooks for a long time, is to be manufactured in the 10nm process, gets GDDR6 video memory and have 96 execution units (EUs). In the form of an integrated GPU (iGPU) it is referred to as "Gen12". As the iGPU, the Xe architecture will also be used on Intel's Tiger Lake CPUs, which were also presented at the keynote. Nevertheless, Intel's CES appearance leaves mixed feelings among many observers, because the breakthrough on desktop PCs is still missing, whether it is processors or graphics cards. In view of the still existing problems with the 10nm production, large leaps are hardly to be expected.
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#5749673 Posted on: 01/11/2020 03:57 AM
Harsh truth, many games are built with consoles in mind. PC master brains, cannot accept controllers work with PC for a reason, decades now. Unless of-course, they bragging multiplayer statistics...
Hell how many times, I prefer tons of games playing with controller both PC and Xbox, keyboard and mouse are necessary evil for previous and new decade. Usage only when you can't do otherwise.
Controller is the default priority in PC gaming, only rgbs in keyboard and mouse keep sales up.
Destiny 2 also played with controller here.
Everything lol. Feels super unbalanced.
Harsh truth, many games are built with consoles in mind. PC master brains, cannot accept controllers work with PC for a reason, decades now. Unless of-course, they bragging multiplayer statistics...
Hell how many times, I prefer tons of games playing with controller both PC and Xbox, keyboard and mouse are necessary evil for previous and new decade. Usage only when you can't do otherwise.
Controller is the default priority in PC gaming, only rgbs in keyboard and mouse keep sales up.
Destiny 2 also played with controller here.
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#5749675 Posted on: 01/11/2020 04:01 AM
Harsh truth, many games are built with consoles in mind. PC master brains, cannot accept controllers work with PC for a reason, decades now. Unless of-course, they bragging multiplayer statistics...
Hell how many times, I prefer tons of games playing with controller both PC and Xbox, keyboard and mouse are necessary evil for previous and new decade. Usage only when you can't do otherwise.
Controller is the default priority in PC gaming, only rgbs in keyboard and mouse keep sales up.
Destiny 2 also played with controller here.
It's not that Bungie didn't try, definitely compared to their last PC release with Gearbox being Halo it's a lot better, but Destiny definitely is an easier game to play with a controller in mind.
Harsh truth, many games are built with consoles in mind. PC master brains, cannot accept controllers work with PC for a reason, decades now. Unless of-course, they bragging multiplayer statistics...
Hell how many times, I prefer tons of games playing with controller both PC and Xbox, keyboard and mouse are necessary evil for previous and new decade. Usage only when you can't do otherwise.
Controller is the default priority in PC gaming, only rgbs in keyboard and mouse keep sales up.
Destiny 2 also played with controller here.
It's not that Bungie didn't try, definitely compared to their last PC release with Gearbox being Halo it's a lot better, but Destiny definitely is an easier game to play with a controller in mind.
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#5749676 Posted on: 01/11/2020 04:01 AM
Harsh truth, many games are built with consoles in mind. PC master brains, cannot accept controllers work with PC for a reason, decades now. Unless of-course, they bragging multiplayer statistics...
Hell how many times, I prefer tons of games playing with controller both PC and Xbox, keyboard and mouse are necessary evil for previous and new decade. Usage only when you can't do otherwise.
Controller is the default priority in PC gaming, only rgbs in keyboard and mouse keep sales up.
Destiny 2 also played with controller here.
Bring a controller near my PC and you'll be dodging flying keyboards!!!!!
Harsh truth, many games are built with consoles in mind. PC master brains, cannot accept controllers work with PC for a reason, decades now. Unless of-course, they bragging multiplayer statistics...
Hell how many times, I prefer tons of games playing with controller both PC and Xbox, keyboard and mouse are necessary evil for previous and new decade. Usage only when you can't do otherwise.
Controller is the default priority in PC gaming, only rgbs in keyboard and mouse keep sales up.
Destiny 2 also played with controller here.
Bring a controller near my PC and you'll be dodging flying keyboards!!!!!
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#5749688 Posted on: 01/11/2020 05:48 AM
It surely depends on game, but PC nowadays cannot be a game machine with a controller plugged in. Anthem, Destiny 2, Witcher 3, RDR, GTAV and so many other like those games out,
If I see a human playing any RPG with keyboard and mouse I will seriously call the Police and National Institute of Mental Health. It is a serious alert about a dangerous for society person.
It surely depends on game, but PC nowadays cannot be a game machine with a controller plugged in. Anthem, Destiny 2, Witcher 3, RDR, GTAV and so many other like those games out,
If I see a human playing any RPG with keyboard and mouse I will seriously call the Police and National Institute of Mental Health. It is a serious alert about a dangerous for society person.
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Last time I checked, Intel doesn't make laptops, which is what this article is about.
You did read the article, right?
Yes, I did read the article. Intel showed off "DG1" (actually Xe LP) supposedly playing Destiny 2....on a laptop.... Intel also showed a physical "DG1" based graphics card, which is reportedly being sent to developers to help optimize code for "DG1".
According to every other article I've read, Intel provided zero specifications for "DG1" at CES. It's also been reported that Intel wants to develop something similar to "hybrid crossfire" where an iGPU and dGPU share the graphics processing load, hoping for perfect scaling. It's also been reported by others that the 96CU and GDDR6 are simply assumptions made by media and Intel has refused to confirm any specs. Intel has also NOT said that "DG1" won't target desktops..... Quite the contrary, actually. "DG1" will target the desktop segment in the form of Xe LP and Xe HP....per Intel. "DG1" actually meaning Discrete Graphics Generation 1....
The article is not about laptops. The article is about "DG1"....and a lot of assumptions that were made by the source, but have been refuted by other tech journalists....and Intel's own presentation.