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Intel Will no Longer Disclose Multi-Core Turbo Boost Frequencies
In yet another unexpected move Intel has made is clear that it will not be sharing any details anymore on the multi-core Turbo clock frequencies of their processors.
You might already have noticed it, Intel is only listing the highest Boost frequency, and not the rest. Here’s the thing, the recent generation processors basically have three main frequencies.
- Base Baseclock
- Binned multi all-core clock turbo
- Single thread turbo
Intel from now on will only list the base and (1) and Single thread (3) turbo. As to why this is, remains uncertain, however many scenarios pop into mind. It might be a legal reason as they cannot guarantee the all core turbo on all processors.However, the longer I think about this, then an old routine kicks in .. what would be the most probable? Might it be that Intel likes that highest Turbo listed on their packaging a bit better for marketing and thus sales? I mean, it’s not unthinkable right? The guys from eteknix have a quote from Intel on this:
“[W]e’re no longer disclosing this level of detail as its proprietary to Intel. Intel only specifies processor frequencies for base and single-core Turbo in our processor marketing and technical collateral, such as ARK, and not the multi-core Turbo frequencies. We’re aligning communications to be consistent. All Turbo frequencies are opportunistic given their dependency on system configuration and workloads.”
So a Core i7 8700 is now being listed as a 4.7 GHz processor (click the link and look at the ARK info). But considering that is just one thread, it really runs 4.3 GHz on all six cores. Weird move huh?
| Processor | Cores / Threads | Base Clock | Turbo 2.0 (6c) | Turbo 3.0 (1c) | L3 | TDP | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Core i7 8700K | 6/12 | 3.7 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 12 MB | 95 W | $359 / €389 |
| Core i7 8700 | 6/12 | 3.2 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.6 GHz | 12 MB | 65 W | $303 / €327 |
| Core i5 8600K | 6/6 | 3.6 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 9 MB | 95 W | $257 / €273 |
| Core i5 8400 | 6/6 | 2.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 9 MB | 65 W | $182 / €192 |
| Core i3 8350K | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 91 W | $169 / €189 |
| Core i3 8300 | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 65 W | - |
| Core i3 8100 | 4/4 | 3.6 GHz | NA | NA | 6 MB | 65 W | $117 / €123 |
If you look at the above table, pretty much the greyed out Turbo 2.0 info is no longer disclosed by Intel.
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#5480114 Posted on: 10/10/2017 08:18 AM
More shady dealing from Intel. Personally I see one main reason for this- Yields. They squueze as much as possible out of their 14nm process, which results in bad yields, inability for all cores to perform equally, excessive heat, and Intel marketing becoming more inconsistent and shady. Ryzen really gives them a worry as of late, due to that we see this hectic behavior both on their recent linup releases and inconsistent marketing.
AMD really did shake Intel's foundation, lets see what other shady cards Intel has in it's sleeve.
And for me yet another reason to switch to Ryzen, can't wait till February.
More shady dealing from Intel. Personally I see one main reason for this- Yields. They squueze as much as possible out of their 14nm process, which results in bad yields, inability for all cores to perform equally, excessive heat, and Intel marketing becoming more inconsistent and shady. Ryzen really gives them a worry as of late, due to that we see this hectic behavior both on their recent linup releases and inconsistent marketing.
AMD really did shake Intel's foundation, lets see what other shady cards Intel has in it's sleeve.
And for me yet another reason to switch to Ryzen, can't wait till February.
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#5480116 Posted on: 10/10/2017 08:24 AM
@Kaarme/cryhellinc
+1
nice to see you guys didnt drink the blue kool aid as some others in this forum have....
@Kaarme/cryhellinc
+1
nice to see you guys didnt drink the blue kool aid as some others in this forum have....
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#5480118 Posted on: 10/10/2017 08:33 AM
I may criticize AMD a lot, but this takes the cake.
I may criticize AMD a lot, but this takes the cake.
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#5480120 Posted on: 10/10/2017 08:38 AM
AMD circlejerk finally found an article they can release some steam after Coffeelake wrecked the entire Ryzen lineup.
AMD circlejerk finally found an article they can release some steam after Coffeelake wrecked the entire Ryzen lineup.
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Why did Intel increase mainstream CPU core count to 6 if they firmly believe only the single core performance matters? It would have made more sense to drop the core count to 2 and try to clock it up to 6-7GHz following this logic.