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Guru3D.com » News » Intel Will no Longer Disclose Multi-Core Turbo Boost Frequencies

Intel Will no Longer Disclose Multi-Core Turbo Boost Frequencies

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/10/2017 09:09 AM | source: | 70 comment(s)
Intel Will no Longer Disclose Multi-Core Turbo Boost Frequencies

In yet another unexpected move Intel has made is clear that it will not be sharing any details anymore on the multi-core Turbo clock frequencies of their processors.

You might already have noticed it, Intel is only listing the highest Boost frequency, and not the rest. Here’s the thing, the recent generation processors basically have three main frequencies.

  1. Base Baseclock
  2. Binned multi all-core clock turbo
  3. Single thread turbo

Intel from now on will only list the base and (1) and Single thread (3) turbo. As to why this is, remains uncertain, however many scenarios pop into mind. It might be a legal reason as they cannot guarantee the all core turbo on all processors.However, the longer I think about this, then an old routine kicks in .. what would be the most probable? Might it be that Intel likes that highest Turbo listed on their packaging a bit better for marketing  and thus sales? I mean, it’s not unthinkable right? The guys from eteknix have a quote from Intel on this:

“[W]e’re no longer disclosing this level of detail as its proprietary to Intel. Intel only specifies processor frequencies for base and single-core Turbo in our processor marketing and technical collateral, such as ARK, and not the multi-core Turbo frequencies. We’re aligning communications to be consistent. All Turbo frequencies are opportunistic given their dependency on system configuration and workloads.”

So a Core i7 8700 is now being listed as a 4.7 GHz processor (click the link and look at the ARK info). But considering that is just one thread, it really runs 4.3 GHz on all six cores. Weird move huh?

 

ProcessorCores / ThreadsBase ClockTurbo 2.0 (6c)Turbo 3.0 (1c)L3TDPPrice
Core i7 8700K 6/12 3.7 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.7 GHz 12 MB 95 W $359 / €389
Core i7 8700 6/12 3.2 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.6 GHz 12 MB 65 W $303 / €327
Core i5 8600K 6/6 3.6 GHz 4.1 GHz 4.3 GHz 9 MB 95 W $257 / €273
Core i5 8400 6/6 2.8 GHz 3.8 GHz 4.0 GHz 9 MB 65 W $182 / €192
Core i3 8350K 4/4 4.0 GHz NA NA 8 MB 91 W $169 / €189
Core i3 8300 4/4 4.0 GHz NA NA 8 MB 65 W -
Core i3 8100 4/4 3.6 GHz NA NA 6 MB 65 W $117 / €123


If you look at the above table, pretty much the greyed out Turbo 2.0 info is no longer disclosed by Intel. 







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user1
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#5480124 Posted on: 10/10/2017 09:56 AM
wanky marketing as per usual, the sad part is that who ever thought to do this is probably getting a raise if it works.

also proprietary my ass.

fry178
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#5480127 Posted on: 10/10/2017 10:02 AM
@krakenxt
being more expensive? check
being only up for one chipset cycle? check
running hotter? check

ryzen will offer more cores at lower price than the i5 is going for, and as long as ppl are not interested in MT perf, it can even be more cheap than intel..
besides the fact that those not upgrading every year will have a nice platform to upgrade the cpu in a few years without having to change the rest (at higher cost).

not sure what you mean by wrecked entire lineup...

fantaskarsef
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#5480129 Posted on: 10/10/2017 10:15 AM
I guess it makes good reviews even more important then, and not buying before you have read them.

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#5480131 Posted on: 10/10/2017 10:19 AM
AMD circlejerk finally found an article they can release some steam after Coffeelake wrecked the entire Ryzen lineup.

"wrecked" in accordance to Whom? I hardly call your biased opinion a source of relevant information. Fanboy all you want, without AMD you would still sit on i7 8700k as quad core.

Don't forget a simple fact that Intel is exploiting this technology process for several years now, while Ryzen is not even a year old. What does this tell us? Unless Intel will devise a brand new architecture on a new process, we will see more of the same down the road. Ryzen on the other hand is just a first step.
Im looking forward to comparisons of Ryzen re-release this February and 8700k.

Personally I rather stick with solid platform for years to come, then jump a chipset every release with lame shady excuses as to why we can't keep previous "generation" chipset.

Vananovion
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#5480133 Posted on: 10/10/2017 10:19 AM
This looks like a clear case of misleading the consumer. If I want to buy a multicore CPU and see its boost frequency of 4.7Ghz, I expect all cores to be able to do that. I smell a court case in the EU for Intel in the near future.

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