Intel Will no Longer Disclose Multi-Core Turbo Boost Frequencies
In yet another unexpected move Intel has made is clear that it will not be sharing any details anymore on the multi-core Turbo clock frequencies of their processors.
You might already have noticed it, Intel is only listing the highest Boost frequency, and not the rest. Here’s the thing, the recent generation processors basically have three main frequencies.
- Base Baseclock
- Binned multi all-core clock turbo
- Single thread turbo
Intel from now on will only list the base and (1) and Single thread (3) turbo. As to why this is, remains uncertain, however many scenarios pop into mind. It might be a legal reason as they cannot guarantee the all core turbo on all processors.However, the longer I think about this, then an old routine kicks in .. what would be the most probable? Might it be that Intel likes that highest Turbo listed on their packaging a bit better for marketing and thus sales? I mean, it’s not unthinkable right? The guys from eteknix have a quote from Intel on this:
“[W]e’re no longer disclosing this level of detail as its proprietary to Intel. Intel only specifies processor frequencies for base and single-core Turbo in our processor marketing and technical collateral, such as ARK, and not the multi-core Turbo frequencies. We’re aligning communications to be consistent. All Turbo frequencies are opportunistic given their dependency on system configuration and workloads.”
So a Core i7 8700 is now being listed as a 4.7 GHz processor (click the link and look at the ARK info). But considering that is just one thread, it really runs 4.3 GHz on all six cores. Weird move huh?
Processor | Cores / Threads | Base Clock | Turbo 2.0 (6c) | Turbo 3.0 (1c) | L3 | TDP | Price |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Core i7 8700K | 6/12 | 3.7 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 12 MB | 95 W | $359 / €389 |
Core i7 8700 | 6/12 | 3.2 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 4.6 GHz | 12 MB | 65 W | $303 / €327 |
Core i5 8600K | 6/6 | 3.6 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 9 MB | 95 W | $257 / €273 |
Core i5 8400 | 6/6 | 2.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 9 MB | 65 W | $182 / €192 |
Core i3 8350K | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 91 W | $169 / €189 |
Core i3 8300 | 4/4 | 4.0 GHz | NA | NA | 8 MB | 65 W | - |
Core i3 8100 | 4/4 | 3.6 GHz | NA | NA | 6 MB | 65 W | $117 / €123 |
If you look at the above table, pretty much the greyed out Turbo 2.0 info is no longer disclosed by Intel.
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This makes me wonder -- Is the single-turbo core a different one on each processor, depending on how it tests out? Or is it ALWAYS core #1?
Followup question: Is core #1 ALWAYS the same physical core, or can they label any of them core #1?
On Broadwell-E, there is a defined single core turbo. On my processor, it is core 2. It is also the core that is substantially lower in temps when running stress tests such as LinX.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores/2
Each of the cores in the processor can be individually accessed by the OS with the new driver, and the cores will be rated based on their performance and efficiency as they come out of Intel. In the image above, Core 9 is rated the best, with Core 0 at the bottom. This means that for TBM3, the driver will primarily use Core 9.
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Here customer... Just buy this $400 processor... We know you really don't know what you're getting, but just buy it. It's Intel. It's good. Just buy it.
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Yep, LOL.
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Goes well along with Intel's decision to strictly restrict the sites it supplies with review samples and refuse even communication with all the other sites.
You can bet the sites Intel selects are the ones dancing to a blue tune. Fortunately Guru3D and others still get stuff from non-Intel sources so that we get an objective look at thing..
Much better off for us if Intel does not supply their samples to review sites. I have read reports that these "engineering samples" are much easier to overclock and reach higher over-clocks (5GHz) than normal consumer samples. ie. they are cherry-picked golden samples - the best off the line - so the reviewers can reach max over-clocks with minimum power and heat and then give great reviews. Hence more sales for Intel. More fuckwad-ery from Intel to trick consumers and enthusiasts.
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what?...when?
all I said was... "avoid a potential lawsuit".....what are you talking about?...Most all my GPU's have been amd and yes I love my 480...don't quote me if you don't know what you're talking about...Grrr
I've bought new a hd4890 /5770/ 6870/270x/ rx480!.....