Intel To Release affordable Optane 800P series SSDs in March

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/11/2018 10:23 AM | source: | 8 comment(s)

Intel announced the release of a new Optane SSDs series, the 800P Optane SSDs are positioned between the Optane Memory caching modules and the Intel Optane 900P SSDs.

The Intel Optane 800P series SSDs will be become available in a 58GB and 188GB capacity, both in an M.2 form-factor. They use a PCIe 3.0 x2 interface, similar to the Optane Memory caching modules. In fact, they even look similar. Intel still feels functionality should be a dual-drive setup, where the Optane 800P modules are backed by an HDD or traditional SSD. This way users can benefit from the low latency of Optane technology while having sufficient capacity at whole. The drives are rated at 200GB writes per day for 5 years. The Optane SSD 800p comes optimized for desktop performance.

The Optane SSD 800p may be able to deliver good bandwidth, but the controller and PCIe x2 uplink seem to limit performance metrics. Intel has embargoed the performance metrics of the Optane 800P series. Neither did they reveal any word on pricing, they, however, will become available in March this year.

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xrodney
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#5509611 Posted on: 01/11/2018 10:56 AM

Thx for info Hilbert, Intel slowly getting there but still big disapointment.

Its still too low capacity, most users would want 256/512 GB at least (unless one want PCI-e card version).
PCI-e x2 limit, when still good for normsal users make it slower than most NVMe drives out there.
200GB per day is about 365TB writes limit which is on par with higend SSDs (I would say this is big disapointment as intel promissed for optane much higher endurance)

Unless price is much lower (which I do not believe it will be), I do not see benefit using it as SSD disk and it have too low write endurance to be used as for cache disk.

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#5509696 Posted on: 01/11/2018 03:20 PM

You are right about the capacity issue. I have gone as far as exploring that Asus 16X card with 4 M.2 -> U.2 adapters connected to 4 U.2 Optane 2.5 inch SSDs to get decent capacity and while this should work (and on certain motherboards even allow VROC) the price and case clutter involved makes it impossible to justify.

I see stuff like this:

https://www.pcper.com/news/Storage/Intel-Quad-RAID-0-Optane-Memory-32GB-Bootable-Without-VROC-Key

and think about just how close to amazing that is. That is way too much hardware to attain such a small boot/app drive and is way too expensive.

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#5509817 Posted on: 01/11/2018 09:23 PM

ASROCK announced a 4x m.2 card this CES as well, without VROC. It's cross platform compatible with AMD and Intel, so should work in any system that has a slot that can be configured with x4/x4/x4/x4 (or x4/x4 on z370/z270 boards).They are showing it off as a supplement to use with their new matx Threadripper and X299 boards. Not sure if it will work with Optane at this point, but considering ASUS and ASROCK are partner companies I wouldn't rule it out.

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#5509891 Posted on: 01/12/2018 01:11 AM

Optane was always meant to be used with a high capacity hd to boost the hd access speed. Originally it was meant for enterprise use. But now it is being marketed for the desktop/laptop user. People are confused and think it is the main part to be used for read write which isn't the case. Intel has done a poor job at explaining, or at least getting the word out to the mainstream user on it's true use and function. This is not a turbo charger for ssd's or m2's as people mistakenly think it is. It works hand in hand with your hd storing data the computer uses all the time, thus cutting down access time and sending the data out for use. Nothing magic about it.

https://imgur.com/a/Wi0cL here is a link from someone using a 960 evo vs optane memory and showing some benchmarks.

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#5509899 Posted on: 01/12/2018 02:30 AM

It's really just a way for OEMs to make their customers think they have a faster system than they do for a couple weeks after their purchase. Then, of course, the Optane cache gets full and every app they run comes from the crap 5400RPM drive they put in, but by that time most people won't return it.

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