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Intel To Release affordable Optane 800P series SSDs in March
Intel announced the release of a new Optane SSDs series, the 800P Optane SSDs are positioned between the Optane Memory caching modules and the Intel Optane 900P SSDs.
The Intel Optane 800P series SSDs will be become available in a 58GB and 188GB capacity, both in an M.2 form-factor. They use a PCIe 3.0 x2 interface, similar to the Optane Memory caching modules. In fact, they even look similar. Intel still feels functionality should be a dual-drive setup, where the Optane 800P modules are backed by an HDD or traditional SSD. This way users can benefit from the low latency of Optane technology while having sufficient capacity at whole. The drives are rated at 200GB writes per day for 5 years. The Optane SSD 800p comes optimized for desktop performance.
The Optane SSD 800p may be able to deliver good bandwidth, but the controller and PCIe x2 uplink seem to limit performance metrics. Intel has embargoed the performance metrics of the Optane 800P series. Neither did they reveal any word on pricing, they, however, will become available in March this year.
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#5509928 Posted on: 01/12/2018 06:59 AM
https://imgur.com/a/Wi0cL here is a link from someone using a 960 evo vs optane memory and showing some benchmarks.
There has been a LOT of testing and it always comes out the same. Samsung destroys everything for sequential speed and is between decent and good at everything else. Optane destroys everything in terms of latency and random mixed reads and writes. Optane is terrible at sequential writes.
What we want is a best of both words SSD. I suspect that Samsung will get there first, I was kind of hoping to see something to indicate this at CES.
https://imgur.com/a/Wi0cL here is a link from someone using a 960 evo vs optane memory and showing some benchmarks.
There has been a LOT of testing and it always comes out the same. Samsung destroys everything for sequential speed and is between decent and good at everything else. Optane destroys everything in terms of latency and random mixed reads and writes. Optane is terrible at sequential writes.
What we want is a best of both words SSD. I suspect that Samsung will get there first, I was kind of hoping to see something to indicate this at CES.
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#5509965 Posted on: 01/12/2018 10:14 AM
Optane was always meant to be used with a high capacity hd to boost the hd access speed. Originally it was meant for enterprise use. But now it is being marketed for the desktop/laptop user. People are confused and think it is the main part to be used for read write which isn't the case. Intel has done a poor job at explaining, or at least getting the word out to the mainstream user on it's true use and function. This is not a turbo charger for ssd's or m2's as people mistakenly think it is. It works hand in hand with your hd storing data the computer uses all the time, thus cutting down access time and sending the data out for use. Nothing magic about it.
https://imgur.com/a/Wi0cL here is a link from someone using a 960 evo vs optane memory and showing some benchmarks.
Even headline states this is SSD and not Optane Cache and even for it use "as cache" it have very little write endurance and I can asureyou I have a LOT more than 200GB a day reads from disks.
Not even mentioning another problem/limitation (not sure if thats still case) and thats that at least initialy Optane could be use for only single drive caching and that was for C: drive only where majority people already use SSD or will for cost of optane cache rather get SSD+HDD combination.
Optane was always meant to be used with a high capacity hd to boost the hd access speed. Originally it was meant for enterprise use. But now it is being marketed for the desktop/laptop user. People are confused and think it is the main part to be used for read write which isn't the case. Intel has done a poor job at explaining, or at least getting the word out to the mainstream user on it's true use and function. This is not a turbo charger for ssd's or m2's as people mistakenly think it is. It works hand in hand with your hd storing data the computer uses all the time, thus cutting down access time and sending the data out for use. Nothing magic about it.
https://imgur.com/a/Wi0cL here is a link from someone using a 960 evo vs optane memory and showing some benchmarks.
Even headline states this is SSD and not Optane Cache and even for it use "as cache" it have very little write endurance and I can asureyou I have a LOT more than 200GB a day reads from disks.
Not even mentioning another problem/limitation (not sure if thats still case) and thats that at least initialy Optane could be use for only single drive caching and that was for C: drive only where majority people already use SSD or will for cost of optane cache rather get SSD+HDD combination.
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Full? It doesn't works like this, it clears old stuff automatically.
Even 32gb of Optane is more then enough to hold every single crap program from both Program Files and program Files x86 folder.
I dont know what people use, but both mine take 16gb right now.
Optane is a great idea, even used with SATA SSD, just look at benchmarks it has great 4k speeds faster than 1Tb NVMe drives.
If Intel introduces whole system caching with the new 800p optane drives (right now it only caches the OS drive, you cant manually change it to cache game drive even if you want) it will be a great option, plug the 188gb one ,set it up and forget, it will cache all your HDD,s SSD,s and NVMe drives automatically