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Intel Talks About Discrete Graphics Processor at ISSCC
Announced and then canned it in the past, but now it seems to live again. A few months ago AMDs primary GPU guru Raja Koduri made a move to Intel, who got the title Chief Architect and Senior Vice President of Core and Visual Computing Group, and weeks later, Intel talks about a GPU, a discrete one.
From the looks of it, Intel will enter the discrete GPU and is talkiong about a prototype chip of a discrete Intel GPU at ISSCC (IEEE International Solid-State Circuits Conference) in San Francisco, USA. As PC Watch writes today.
The talk is all that though, talk about a prototype with examples of the building blocks in the base design. The GPU would be based on existing Intel's integrated GPU architecture but advances on that. This prototype GPU architecture is based on the latest Intel Graphics Gen 9 generation, Intel's standard GPU core itself. However, the implementation is LP (low power), the GPU would be fabbed at 14 nm and see a die size of 8×8 mm with 1.5 Billion transistors. A GP102 from Nvidia like the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti as comparison holds, 12 Billion. So you can see that Intel starts low, do the groundwork and then scale upwards from there onwards. In the prototype chip each block (cluster) holds six EUs. While all these specs do not sound enticing for a super fast GPU, it's might be the new groundwork and building block of what might become an advanced GPU, in the future.
Below you can check out all the charts and slides, again courtesy of Hirofumi Goto from PC Watch.
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#5526422 Posted on: 03/08/2018 07:58 AM
True. Yet it remains to be seen if intel can deliver both dGPU performance and driver worth such performance. 10+ years ago AMD/ATi struggled with drivers, and even today people throw it into AMD's face.
It's hard to ignore the fact that Intel's graphics driver "just works" though.... Of course, the iGPU lacks capability.... We won't really see how well Intel's graphics drivers really work until they release something that's actually capable of heavy 3D graphics rendering. Given the limited capability of Intel's iGPU, there's no reason to have any more settings than actually necessary.
True. Yet it remains to be seen if intel can deliver both dGPU performance and driver worth such performance. 10+ years ago AMD/ATi struggled with drivers, and even today people throw it into AMD's face.
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#5527021 Posted on: 03/10/2018 07:00 AM
Only time will tell. People have always been more critical of ATI/AMD than Intel or NVidia. AMD could release a new GPU arch tomorrow with a 10x performance improvement over the 1080Ti and people would still bash AMD over something.... Personally, I'm a fan of technology. I welcome Intel to enter the graphics market and I look forward to seeing what they deliver, if anything.... I'm just not holding my breath after Larrabee. Larrabee was supposed to be a graphics card. Ended up being an accelerator card instead.
True. Yet it remains to be seen if intel can deliver both dGPU performance and driver worth such performance. 10+ years ago AMD/ATi struggled with drivers, and even today people throw it into AMD's face.
Only time will tell. People have always been more critical of ATI/AMD than Intel or NVidia. AMD could release a new GPU arch tomorrow with a 10x performance improvement over the 1080Ti and people would still bash AMD over something.... Personally, I'm a fan of technology. I welcome Intel to enter the graphics market and I look forward to seeing what they deliver, if anything.... I'm just not holding my breath after Larrabee. Larrabee was supposed to be a graphics card. Ended up being an accelerator card instead.
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#5527033 Posted on: 03/10/2018 08:45 AM
Best case scenario would be early release of compute capable GPU. Mass production at expense of reducing CPU production. Miners would be satisfied, we would have easier times getting AMD/nVidia's GPU. And less intel's CPUs = higher AMD sales.
Only time will tell. People have always been more critical of ATI/AMD than Intel or NVidia. AMD could release a new GPU arch tomorrow with a 10x performance improvement over the 1080Ti and people would still bash AMD over something.... Personally, I'm a fan of technology. I welcome Intel to enter the graphics market and I look forward to seeing what they deliver, if anything.... I'm just not holding my breath after Larrabee. Larrabee was supposed to be a graphics card. Ended up being an accelerator card instead.
Best case scenario would be early release of compute capable GPU. Mass production at expense of reducing CPU production. Miners would be satisfied, we would have easier times getting AMD/nVidia's GPU. And less intel's CPUs = higher AMD sales.
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Sure they are. Except... Take feature set you can set up in AMD or nVidia driver and then compare it to intel.
Intel has like 20% of settings?
It's hard to ignore the fact that Intel's graphics driver "just works" though.... Of course, the iGPU lacks capability.... We won't really see how well Intel's graphics drivers really work until they release something that's actually capable of heavy 3D graphics rendering. Given the limited capability of Intel's iGPU, there's no reason to have any more settings than actually necessary.